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[Fwd: [ga] Re: Formal Attribution of Identity for everyday emailsources?Yes please]






Mark (The fraud) and all,

Mark Measday wrote:

> Harald,
>
> Duh,
>
> The point of the request for strong authentication is that there is currently no
> way that identity can be proven on the internet on a personal basis, other than
> statistically by the cryptanalytic techniques of semantic and textual analysis.

  What horse shit Mark, and I think you know it. I am very sure Harald does.
Authentication and encryption if properly deployed provides very good
identification of individual's.  That is why we have the CA system in place
dummy!  Wake up!

>
> (these for example, show roughly that Brian Hollingsworth, Jeff Williams, DNSIPV6
> and Louis Touton, all from the same Dallas dial-up as you know, are all probably
> the same person, but also indicate conversely (not necessarily conclusively) that
> different people write Jeff Williams at different times and, for example, different
> people appear to write Ken Stubbs, Roberto Gaetano and Kent Crispin at different
> times) There are other surprise results.

  That's James Touton, not Louis Touton, not related.  Louis Touton is the
legal eagle on the ICANN board stupid!  Wake up again!  David Jenson,
Brian Hollingsworth, which you mention here are in favor of positive or
strong authentication as am I, if it applies equally to all on this list.

>
>
> This is a one to many and many to one philosophical problem.which recurs in many
> cases. Now assume that you have supplied to PSI an indication that their IP was
> used to transmit the offending message. As it happens I have no account with
> PSI-NET, but let's assume that I have.

  No you don't.  But your other E-Mail address uses PSI as a provider.
That much has already been traced positively.  Non-refuatable.

>
>
> You ask PSI to block this account and they agree, but find, it's a computer in a
> bar in Gex, used by many people. You inform the French police, they lay in wait and
> catch someone, a red-headed, poorly-dressed American citizen called Jeffrey
> Williams, born in Kansas City in 1949 or thereabouts.

  I wasn't born in Kansas City!  ROFLMAO!  I was born in Fredricksberg
Texas.  And it wasn't 1949 either.  Sheeeesh!  Wake up and do your
homework better Mark!

>
>
> Jeff captured for impersonating himself?
>
> MM
>
> Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
>
> > At 21:00 20.01.00 +0100, Mark Measday wrote:
> > >Harald,
> > >
> > >Thanks, but a reservation.
> > >
> > >There cannot be two sets of rules, one for those of us in Dallas and another
> > >for the rest of the world.
> > >
> > >1. You say there are no rules in force yet. Therefore, you cannot submit this
> > >instance until those rules have come into force. Yet, you forward something to
> > >PSI, as IP address operator. A clear procedural anomaly, no?
> >
> > If (as is common) sending forged email is against the AUP of PSI, this is
> > notifying them of an user violating their AUP.
> >
> > >2. what is the nature of the alleged abuse? It could not have been
> > >spoofing, as the email does not match the name of any list subscriber. It
> > >cannot have been spam, as there is no solicitation. It cannot be an
> > >offence to write to the list under an assumed name, as many of the list do
> > >that. It cannot be fraud, as Mr Mueller has yet to represent himself to my
> > >lawyers. Unless an offence can be found, there is no offence.
> >
> > Sending forged email.
> > BTW, Jeff Williams is a subscriber to the GA list, which got a copy of the
> > message.
> >
> > >I repeat my question:
> > >
> > > > Where is the Serjeant-at-Arms to provide the appropriate jurisprudence?
> > > >
> > >Best regards,
> > >
> > >Mark Measday
> >
> > There is no sergeant-at-arms (yet). Just us.
> >
> >                Harald A
> >
> > --
> > Harald Tveit Alvestrand, EDB Maxware, Norway
> > Harald.Alvestrand@edb.maxware.no
>
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