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[ga-rules] Re: [ga] Consensus

  • To: Joe Kelsey <joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us>
  • Subject: [ga-rules] Re: [ga] Consensus
  • From: Joop Teernstra <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>
  • Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 21:23:36 +1200
  • Cc: ga-rules@dnso.org
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At 19:46 17/07/01 -0700, Joe Kelsey wrote:

>I would be tempted to agree with you about adopting the IETF approach,
>except for the fact that it does not apply in this particular
>situation.  I do not know whether or not is is better to choose an
>"easy" consensus or a "hard" consensus, but this is definitely a "hard"
>consensus.  The vehemence of opposition is such that there are clearly
>major problems with achieving a "rough" consensus here.  Both myself and
>others have expressed grave doubts about both the method of forcing this
>so-called consensus on the "rules" through the GA and with the actual
>proposal (vague as it is).

The IETF model clearly ranks "vehemence" of opposition  in the same 
category as "dominance" by way of volume. (=without consequence)
In other words: Persuade, don't bully.

The GA should not give de facto veto rights to individual participants 
simply because of their capacity to be "vehement".



--Joop--
Founder of the Cyberspace Association.
Former bootstrap of the IDNO (www.democracy.org.nz/idno/)
Developer of    The Polling Booth
www.democracy.org.nz/vote1/


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