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Re: [ga-roots] Re: ICANN Policy -- revised version


Stuart and all,

M. Stuart Lynn wrote:

> It seems, Milton, that academe has arrived at a new standard since I
> left two years ago. Anyone who agrees with you is "honest" and anyone
> who disagrees is not ;-). Well, well!'t

  Getting a little sarcastic here aren't we, Stu?  >;)

>
>
> The basis for the statement that ICANN's policy is to support a
> single authoritative root is extensively articulated in my document
> and the references clearly cited. The White Paper, the Memorandum of
> Understanding, and the Articles of Incorporation give clear
> indication of ICANN's Policy. They are ICANN's charter documents. I
> suggest you read them again. They are not very hard to understand and
> their statements with regard to an authoritative single root and to
> competing roots are quite clear.

  Where it the specific language in the White Paper and the MoU to which
you refer that states what you suggest here?  I don't see it...

> My statement on ICANN Policy is not
> unilateral -- it is well-grounded in the community processes that led
> to the White Paper and to the formation of ICANN.

  Can you demonstrate this statement?  How do you define
"Well-grounded".  Can you quantify it?  If so, where and how?
You know it is nice and interesting to make blanket statements
such as these.  But unless you can demonstrate it in terms
of stakeholder agreement, you statement is just so much
political spin.  That's ok, except you are being exact in your
suggestion.  That is NOT ok...

>
>
> You may disagree. That's fine. It would make for a dull ICANN if
> everyone agreed on everything.

  Nothing dull about the ICANN BoD and staff.  However what
does this have to do with anything of substance?

>
>
> And I would encourage you to follow the appropriate processes if you
> would like to see the current policy changed.

  Already been done.  You seem to have no recognized it for some
odd reason...  Nothing new there either...

>
>
> With regards
> Stuart
>
> At 6:02 PM -0400 6/14/01, Milton Mueller wrote:
> >Stuart:
> >
> >I would request that you modify your statement to indicate that there
> >currently is NO stated consensus policy on the adoption of TLD
> >assignments by ICANN that are in use in alternate or competing roots.
> >
> >I can prove easily that there is no policy: ICANN has explicitly avoided
> >a conflict in the case of .WEB, and it has created a conflict in the case
> >of .BIZ. Both decisions were off-the-cuff ones made by the Board in
> >November. But there is no documented policy process that would explain
> >why they avoided conflict in one instance and not in another.
> >
> >The White Paper simply does not address the issue. Working Group C
> >did not address it. Nor did the Names Council resolution passing on
> >WGC's recommendation to create new TLDs.
> >
> >In your unilateral policy statement known as the "discussion draft,"
> >you made it clear that you do not like alternate roots. I would ask
> >you to look beyond that, as it is irrelevant to the question I am raising.
> >We must not confuse the question of whether there is a prior
> >policy with the question of WHAT the policy should be. We may agree
> >or disagree on the latter. But the only conclusion an honest person
> >cam come to about the former is that it is a policy question that has
> >not been carefully defined and explored.
> >
> >>>>  "M. Stuart Lynn" <lynn@icann.org> 06/14/01 04:23PM >>>
> >Danny -- I am still receiving final editorial and other clarification
> >suggestions on my paper. I hope to have it complete in about a week
> >or so.
> >
> >Thanks for your interest.
> >
> >Stuart
> >
> >   At 1:48 PM -0400 6/14/01, Danny Younger wrote:
> >>Although the Names Council has decided, "that multiple roots are outside the
> >>scope of the ICANN DNSO", it is within the scope of the General Assembly to
> >  >consider changes in ICANN's domain name policies.
> >  >"The Supporting Organizations shall serve as advisory bodies to the Board,
> >  >with the primary responsibility for developing and recommending substantive
> >  >policies regarding those matters falling within their specific
> >  >responsibilities."
> >  >Our ICANN President has stated, "We already do have a policy, and we'd need
> >>to change that policy if we want to operate differently in the future."
> >>Director Abril comments, "Policy changes should go through policy process."
> >>The General Assembly is part of that process.  Should we desire to recommend
> >>any consensus-based changes, we need to begin with a full understanding of
> >>the current policy.
> >>We are however, at the moment hampered by the fact that we are still
> >>awaiting the revised version of our current policy draft.   Lynn:  "Will
> >>continue to take comments on single root paper and post a revised version.
> >>Board consensus."
> >>On behalf of the participants to this list, I will ask our President to post
> >>this revised version as soon as possible, so that the General assembly may
> >  >better be positioned to put forward policy recommendations in a timely
> >  >manner.
> >
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> >
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