Re: [ga-roots] [Fwd: Fwd: nos voro illos que offendo]

["William S. Lovell" <cereba@OregonVOS.net>]

Well, I have to disagree with this.  I've seen several explanations
posted, and except for basics such as "v6" = version six, each of
those explaining elected to address some small corner of the entire
subject matter.  Yours, as I recall, also included a gratuitous slap
at Jim Fleming, which hardly aids in gaining understanding.  It is
also yours that perhaps are most freely scattered with acronyms,
all undefined.  You have done some quite good stuff on occasion,
such a providing useful lists of URLs (Universal Resource Locators;
although other words of like import are often employed; they make
up the address on which you click, or that you enter, to reach some
particular web site), but again, people do not  want to have to treat
an email as a research project: if you cannot make it clear within the
lines of that email, don't post it. [The above definition lacks complete
technical correctness, but suffices to provide all of what one would
need to know in order to understand what was said.]

Bill Lovell

"William X. Walsh" wrote:

> Hello William,
>
> I've always believed it is a personal responsibility to make sure you
> understand what is being said, and to ask for clarification or
> explanations of what you don't.
>
> Forcing all participants to play to the lowest common denominator
> would only serve to stifle discussion, and contrary to popular belief,
> doesn't serve to educate people very well.  Lowest common denominator
> education in our schools in the 80's and 90's as a common practice is
> on the leading causes of illiteracy and poor performance in areas such
> as mathematics.
>
> Ask, like Chris did, and someone will answer, on or offlist.  I can
> only speak for myself here, but except for the unstable personalities
> like JW, there isn't anyone here that will knock someone for seeking
> knowledge.
>
> All of that said, I've tried to include all the relevant websites in
> the spidering tool that is powering my search engine at dnspolicy.com,
> and I would suggest that as a possible first stop if looking for a
> reference on a particular subject related to domain policy/dns.
>
> Wednesday, June 06, 2001, 10:34:17 PM, William S. Lovell wrote:
>
> > NameCritic wrote:
>
> >> For dummies like me and anyone who might be lurking here. What is an IPV 1,
> >> 2, 3, 6, 8 or otherwise.
>
> > Fur das Untersuchung habst Ich eine antworten nicht.
> > Sprecht mich 'IPV6?" Nein. Sprecht mich IP8?" Nein.
> > Sprechen Sie Deutsch?  Well, if you don't, you're right
> > with me and Chris as to the above.
>
> > There was an effort a while back to "internationalize" terms so
> > as to use only those that when translated would not bring in
> > connotations that were not intended in the original language.
> > That may often be difficult to do, so at the very least a GA
> > dictionary, perhaps with such explanations as "the sense of
> > this word when translated into the XXX language to include
> > the meaning YYY is not intended," or something like that.
>
> >> One of the reasons for the lack of participation on
> >> lists is the use of acronyms and technical terms. We want more participation
> >> then we will have to stop doing that and include some lay terms for things
> >> including limiting the number of acronyms used.
>
> > And also "see ISOC 5678" -- what the hell is that and where
> > would I find it?  The GA includes not only people that reside
> > all over the world, but also people of widely varying backgrounds,
> > so Chris's suggestions is very well taken. Such references need
> > at least a link at which the document referred to can be found,
> > so that the reader who does not know what the thing is can
> > easily go find out.
>
> > This includes even such things as APNIC, etc.  There are "clueless
> > newbies" everywhere, who are just getting in to this game, but in time
> > they may in fact become the life blood of the Internet. Even "ICANN"
> > should not be skipped over, but beyond some simple set of acronyms
> > that would soon be absorbed, I also concur with limiting their use;
> > this business is complicated enough to soak up without having to spend
> > time running to a dictionary or glossary all the time. If an acronym is
> > used, its meaning should be shown right afterwards in parentheses;
> > repeated usage further on down would then be taken care of.
>
> > Bill Lovell
>
> >>
> >>
> >> Or publish the GA Dictionary.
> >>
> >> Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Eric Dierker" <eric@hi-tek.com>
> >> To: "Kristy McKee" <k@widgital.com>
> >> Cc: <>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:29 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [ga-roots] [Fwd: Fwd: nos voro illos que offendo]
> >>
> >> > Would one of you later day genius' explain the ramifications to us plebes.
> >> The
> >> > way I read it sounds great, like even if someone really messes up someone
> >> else
> >> > can come and clean it up. (hell, after Walsh's comments today I am still
> >> trying
> >> > to prove the existance of an IPV6 - I know 8s exist and that APNIC wants
> >> to
> >> > charge extra for 6s and that folks using the different methods actually
> >> are
> >> > faster in resolution)
> >> >
> >> > Insincerely,
> >> >
> >> > Kristy McKee wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > So,
> >> > >
> >> > > should we stick our heads in the sand and let a group of folks we do not
> >> > > know and certainly do not trust make the decisions for us or should we
> >> open
> >> > > a communication forum to enable a pure collaborative structure to begin
> >> > > development?
> >> > >
> >> > > ~k
> >> > >
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