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[ga-org] Re: ensuring 'non-commercial implicit value' in .org

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  • Subject: [ga-org] Re: ensuring 'non-commercial implicit value' in .org
  • From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
  • Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 03:33:02 -0700
  • Organization: INEGroup Spokesman
  • References: <sb3291e1.047@gwia201.syr.edu> <20010621231647.A7880@songbird.com>
  • Sender: owner-ga-org@dnso.org

Kent and all,

Kent Crispin wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 12:30:58AM -0400, Milton Mueller wrote:
> > Yes, you did miss something. There seems to be
> > no support for "policing" or restricting.
> > When we talk now about retaining or reinforcing
> > non-commercial identity, we are talking about
> > >marketing<.
> Not exactly true.  The word "marketing" has been used, but it has been
> used in the context of ICANN *requiring* a marketing plan on the part of
> the prospective registry operator.  Such a scheme, that is, requires
> ICANN to enforce those conditions through contractual means -- that is,
> it requires "policing" or "restrictions" on the registry.  That is, it
> puts ICANN in the position of evaluating the performance of the
> registry in terms of how well it meets the goal of "marketing" a
> non-commercial.  That is, it requires ICANN to evaluate the
> non-commercial status of the registrants in .org.  If one wants to
> maintain the non-commercial character of .org, then one has this
> problem regardless.  Waving the magic wand of "marketing" over it
> doesn't make it go away.

  A more blatant display of double talking "Spin" I haven't heard sense
the gTLD-MoU/IAHC days....

> Enforcing certain rules on a TLD is not expensive at all if done through
> dispute resolution procedures -- the UDRP clearly has not added
> materially to the cost of registrations in the commercially oriented
> TLDs.  (Call this "post-registration enforcement", as opposed to
> "pre-registration screening".)

  More spin...

> If post-registration enforcement is used as a means of maintaining a
> charter, then the problem becomes one of developing appropriate
> enforcable guidelines, or finding a reasonable sponsor to develop and
> enforce the guidelines.  This is a non-trivial problem, but certainly a
> solvable one.

  All this is fine reason why ICANN should not be involved in
determining or *Requiring* approval of any particular business

> --
> Kent Crispin                               "Be good, and you will be
> kent@songbird.com                           lonesome." -- Mark Twain
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Jeffrey A. Williams
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