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Re: [ga] Whois Task force shananigans?


Abel and all former DNSO GA members,

  Thank you for this update if that is what it is...  Why is this not
updated on the DNSO web site or the so called gnso.icann.org
site?  Is there and archive for this supposed update Abel?
If so where is it?  If not, why not?

Abel Wisman wrote:

> The following appendix has had little, albeit some, changed over the
> year of 2002 and has been added to all reports produced by the TF.
>
> Abel
>
> 12. Appendix
> Members of the Task Force
> Non-Commercial Domain Name Holders' Constituency
> Sarah Andrews
> Gilbert Estillore Lumantao
> Hakikur Rahman
>
> In the past, the Non-Commerdial Domain Name Holders' Constituency has
> been represented by Y. J. Park.
>
> gTLD registries constituency
> Fran Coleman
> Karen Elizaga
> Ram Mohan
>
> Miriam Sapiro served on the Task Force until Summer 2002.
>
> Karen is about to leave the Task Force, and is being replaced by Fran.
>
> Internet Service Providers and Connectivity Providers
> Tony Harris
>
> Tony serves as one of the Task Force's co-chairs.
>
> country-code TLD registries
> Oscar A. Robles Garay
>
> Business Constituency
> Marilyn S. Cade
> Troy Dow
> Bret Fausett
>
> Theresa Swinehart used to serve on the Task Force on behalf of the
> Business Constituency.
>
> Marilyn serves as one of the Task Force's co-chairs.
>
> Intellectual Property Constituency
> Laurence Djolakian
> Steve Metalitz
>
> In the past, the Intellectual Property Constituency has also been
> represented by Axel aus der Mühlen.
>
> Registrars' Constituency
> Tim Denton
> Philipp Grabensee
> Ken Stubbs
>
> The registrars' constituency has originally been represented on the Task
> Force by Paul Kane, who also served as the Task Force's initial
> chairman.
>
> General Assembly
> Kristy McKee
> Thomas Roessler
> Abel Wisman
>
> The General Assembly has originally been represented on the Task Force
> by Danny Younger, then the GA's chairman.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
> > Sent: 31 December 2002 03:57
> > To: 'General Assembly of the DNSO'
> > Cc: abel@able-towers.com; DNSO Secretariat; yj park;
> > Paul.Kane@reacto.com; aaus@mpaa.org; Tony Harris; Marilyn
> > Cade; Danny Younger; Karl Auerbach; Andy Mueller-Maguhn; Don
> > Evans; cathy Handley; Nancy J. Victory
> > Subject: Re: [ga] Whois Task force shananigans?
> >
> >
> > Abel and all former DNSO GA members,
> >
> >   Thomas is not listed as a whois TF members, hence my
> > comments and question, Abel...  I provided the list that the
> > DNSO secretariat posted inclusive in my comments below.  So
> > if Thomas is a member of the Whois Task force, he is not
> > listed as such "Officially".  However if Thomas is a Whois
> > Task Force member and not listed as such, brings up yet the
> > question of accuracy of the Whois Task force make up, "Officially"...
> >
> >   BTW, the Whois task force member YJ Park's listed E-mail
> > address is also incorrect see: "YJ Park (MINC)"
> > <yjpark@minc.org> which no longer is a working E-Mail
> > address..  It should be yjpark@myepark.com... Also BTW
> > "Sapiro, Miriam" <MSapiro@netsol.com> E-mail address is also
> > incorrect as well as listed...
> >
> >   I also noted that at least 8 others that have posted to the
> > Whois Task Force list are also not listed as Whois Task force
> > members as well, Abel.
> >
> >   Now I know full well you do not like me personally, but
> > that should have nothing to do with a proper and honest
> > reply.  Instead you are just sniping.
> >
> > That is hardly professional or reasonable...
> >
> > Again the "Official" Membership list for the Whois task force
> > is listed
> > here: http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-whois/Arc00/msg00000.html
> >
> > Abel Wisman wrote:
> >
> > > WOW, the first one in a long line that slipped through my filters!
> > > Must have been the WHOIS in the header that did it, time for
> > > refinement, but while doing that:
> > >
> > > IF you had read ANY of the reports produced by the WHOIS
> > TF, which you
> > > obviously haven't, or READ some of the CONTENT of the whois PUBLIC
> > > Maillist archives, you would have saved yourself another
> > > embarressement.
> > >
> > > Thomas has been a WHOIS TF Member January and has done a
> > whole lot of
> > > work there.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Abel
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-ga-full@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga-full@dnso.org] On
> > > > Behalf Of Jeff Williams
> > > > Sent: 31 December 2002 02:51
> > > > To: General Assembly of the DNSO
> > > > Cc: yjpark@minc.org; MSapiro@netsol.com; aaus@mpaa.org;
> > > > orobles@nic.mx; Tony Harris; Philip Sheppard; Marilyn Cade; Paul
> > > > Kane; Danny Younger; Don Evans; cathy Handley; Nancy J. Victory;
> > > > DNSO Secretariat; Robin Layton
> > > > Subject: [ga] Whois Task force shananigans?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All former DNSO GA members, task force members and other
> > interested
> > > > parties,
> > > >
> > > >   Seems that some stakeholders/users have "Special"
> > privileges or a
> > > > "Special" ability to post to the Whois TF list and others
> > that have
> > > > been long term participants in DNSO issues do not.  Why
> > is it that
> > > > Thomas Rossler whom is not a Whois Task force member (See
> > Whois TF
> > > > member list below) able to post to the Whois task force
> > and others
> > > > are not? References from the Whois Task force:
> > > > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-> whois/Arc00/msg00783.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-whois/Arc00/msg00797.html
> > >   http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-whois/Arc00/msg00798.html
> > >
> > >   Now I have no problem with Thomas or any stakeholder/user
> > being able
> > > to post to this "Closed" list, but seems that such is less
> > than honest
> > > and aboveboard and should be open to any interested party or
> > > stakeholder/user if it is open to one...
> > >
> > > members are:
> > >
> > >       "YJ Park (MINC)" <yjpark@minc.org> has been added to nc-whois.
> > >       "Sapiro, Miriam" <MSapiro@netsol.com> has been added
> > to nc-whois.
> > >       "Axel Aus der Muhlen" <aaus@mpaa.org> has been added
> > to nc-whois.
> > >       "Oscar A. Robles Garay" <orobles@nic.mx> has been added to
> > > nc-whois.
> > >       "Tony Harris" <harris@cabase.org.ar> has been added
> > to nc-whois.
> > >       "Philip Sheppard" <philip.sheppard@aim.be> has been added to
> > > nc-whois.
> > >       "Marilyn Cade" <mcade@att.com> has been added to nc-whois.
> > >       "Paul Kane" <Paul.Kane@reacto.com> has been added to nc-whois.
> > >       "Danny Younger" <DannyYounger@cs.com> has been added to
> > > nc-whois.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > --
> > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail
> > > jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 972-244-3801
> > > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
> > >
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> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders
> > strong!) CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA
> > Development Eng. Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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> > 972-244-3801
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> >
> >

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 972-244-3801
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208


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