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Re: [ga] Interesting WIPO ruling re: NewZealand.biz


Sticky wicket,

But I think this argument is on track.  Both points of view are right on the mark and deserving of consideration.
I do not want blanket restriction, but I appreciate the effort that goes into branding a name and the right of a peoples to sovereignty.
But;
Take "Columbia". What? records, province, street, country, flower, city?  Now expand into multi tier considerations of ccTLDs (of which I think dotCOM is an alternative for the USA).  Now I know we do not like to admit that free enterprise is righteous but a squatter with foresight has a claim also.

So when we say "State" are we referring to a Barcelona concept or a ccTLD concept?
Or are we referring to the "State" of economics and accessibility, reliability and security?

We here would do well to establish International Standards.  And allocation of IP addresses which are the platform for such useages should be an integral part of such discussion.

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Rodrigo Orenday Serrato wrote:

I beg to differ, Andrew. It is my opinion that  New Zealand did win back its
name on .biz. An approach like yours only favors land-rush attitudes towards
domain name registration and cybersquatting. Domain name registration should
begin by acknowledging that certain exclusive rights over other idetifiers
and distinctive signs preceeded its inception.

I insist that the naming of States is a matter of public interest, and
therefore registrars should ban the registration of domain names comprising
the names of States, unless registration is requested by the State
concerned.

Altough Professor Froomkin commented earlier this week that there is no
basis in international public law for the foregoing, I beleive that there
is, specifically in international commity and custom. Each State is entitled
to choose the form of its designation, same which may not be used otherwise
by anyone else, irrepective of the function that eacg gTLD is supposed to
serve.

Atentamente, Regards
Rodrigo Orenday Serratos

-----Mensaje original-----
De: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org]En nombre de Andy
Gardner
Enviado el: Jueves, 10 de Octubre de 2002 10:57 AM
Para: ga@dnso.org
Asunto: Re: [ga] Interesting WIPO ruling re: NewZealand.biz

At 7:13 PM +1300 10/10/02, DPF wrote:

>It appears from inquiries I have made locally that the application was
>not made by the NZ Government but by Trade New Zealand - a government
>owned organisation, presumably with the consent of their Minister as
>his name was used.  Other sections of the Government with an interest
>in these things were not in the loop on this.
>
>In fact official NZ government policy on the issue of country names as
>domain names is that they should not be precluded.  This can be found
>in the submission at
>http://ecommerce.wipo.int/domains/sct/comments/0009.html.
>

Interesting.

So who do we need to contact in the govt hierachy to get the UDRP for
newzealand.com withdrawn?

Check out the following news item:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=2998418&thesection=techno
logy&thesubsection=general

Quoting:

"The Government has won back the rights to the newzealand.biz internet
domain name"

Firstly, you can't say "won back" when they never had the rights in the
first place, so journalist Adam Gifford needs to get A CLUE. And someone
can forward that message onto him from me if they like.

Secondly, it sounds like "the Government" had no idea this was going on
(thanks to the secrecy surrounding the UDRP process in general - you don't
know who filed a case until it's all over) and the apparent wish of the
complainant to not publish the results.

So Adam Gifford really needs to re-hash his story, and perhap do some
research this time, instead of just repeating quotes from "the Government".

Thirdly:

"Mackenzie said the cost of getting back the name was minimal."

Mackenzie/Trade NZ/"the Government" didn't "get back the name". They STOLE
it.

Sheesh.

No points for guessing what the outcome of
http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/decisions/html/2002/d2002-0754.html will
be, now that these crooks have got some precedence behind them.

Note to those that don't know how the UDRP process REALLY works: What you
read in the final "decision" isn't always the full story. The "panel"
frequently leaves out anything (usually submitted by the defendant) that
doesn't fit the outcome they desire. It's pretty much a SCAM being operated
here.

--
Andrew P. Gardner
barcelona.com stolen, stmoritz.com stays. What's uniform about the UDRP?
We could ask ICANN to send WIPO a clue, but do they have any to spare?
Get active: http://www.tldlobby.com

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