Re: [ga] Letter from ICANN to New.net
Kent and all assembly members,
Kent Crispin wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 02:33:49PM -0700, William S. Lovell wrote:
> > being expressed. What is being said by Mr. Crispin, and the positions
> > being taken by this "protocol community," are based upon business
> > interests, not technology.
> Nope. They are based on technology.
> > > Right. Medicine doesn't exist for the benefit of doctors. But if
> > > doctors tell us something is a bad idea, we generally listen. If we
> > > got practically universal agreement among doctors that a procedure was a
> > > bad idea, we should almost certainly dump it.
> > Again, the analogy doesn't hold. There is no "practically universal
> > agreement."
> Yes, among knowledgable protocol designers, there is. You apparently
> don't hang out with such people.
I do, and no there isn't as Bill rightfully points out.
> > > The problem is protocol engineering really is a species of "rocket
> > > science"* -- it takes a long time to really understand the issues. And,
> > > despitewhat you hear, most of the participants on these lists really
> > > aren't rocket scientists of the proper variety.
> > So IETF presumes to speak for these non-rocket scientists?
> Don't be silly. The IETF speaks about protocol matters. It is not
> speaking *for* you or anyone else.
The IETF speaks for protocol matters for SOME factions within
the Protocol community. Certainly not all.
> > Not for
> > me. The problem with a group such as the IETF (to whom several
> > years ago I had begun to look to for expert guidance, but then gave
> > that up quite rapidly when I saw what it had done and was doing)
> > is that it becomes an in-grown cabal of "right thinkers," for whom
> > "right" more often has a business than a technological origin.
> That simply illustrates your own lack of knowledge, I'm afraid.
How so? Please provide some evidence that would support this
> > My
> > profession lies in determining what technology will work, and what
> > will not, and when are things being done for technological reasons
> > and when are they not. I have learned not to depend on the IETF
> > for anything.
> I look forward to the cessation of your use of email, then, since the design
> of the email protocols came straight out of the IETF...
Incorrect. ARPANET was one of the earliest uses of E-Mail. It
existed long before the IETF was even envisioned.
> Kent Crispin "Be good, and you will be
> firstname.lastname@example.org lonesome." -- Mark Twain
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