Re: [ga] Letter from ICANN to New.net

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Kent and all assembly members,

Kent Crispin wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 02:33:49PM -0700, William S. Lovell wrote:
> [...]
> > being expressed. What is being said by Mr. Crispin, and the positions
> > being taken by this "protocol community," are based upon business
> > interests, not technology.
>
> Nope.  They are based on technology.

  Prove it!

>
>
> [...]
>
> > > Right.  Medicine doesn't exist for the benefit of doctors.  But if
> > > doctors tell us something is a bad idea, we generally listen.  If we
> > > got practically universal agreement among doctors that a procedure was a
> > > bad idea, we should almost certainly dump it.
> >
> > Again, the analogy doesn't hold.  There is no "practically universal
> > agreement."
>
> Yes, among knowledgable protocol designers, there is.  You apparently
> don't hang out with such people.

  I do, and no there isn't as Bill rightfully points out.

>
>
> > > The problem is protocol engineering really is a species of "rocket
> > > science"* -- it takes a long time to really understand the issues.  And,
> > > despitewhat you hear, most of the participants on these lists really
> > > aren't rocket scientists of the proper variety.
> >
> > So IETF presumes to speak for these non-rocket scientists?
>
> Don't be silly.  The IETF speaks about protocol matters.  It is not
> speaking *for* you or anyone else.

  The IETF speaks for protocol matters for SOME factions within
the Protocol community.  Certainly not all.

>
>
> > Not for
> > me.  The problem with a group such as the IETF (to whom several
> > years ago I had begun to look to for expert guidance, but then gave
> > that up quite rapidly when I saw what it had done and was doing)
> > is that it becomes an in-grown cabal of "right thinkers," for whom
> > "right" more often has a business than a technological origin.
>
> That simply illustrates your own lack of knowledge, I'm afraid.

  How so?  Please provide some evidence that would support this
assertion...

>
>
> >  My
> > profession lies in determining what technology will work, and what
> > will not, and when are things being done for technological reasons
> > and when are they not.  I have learned not to depend on the IETF
> > for anything.
>
> I look forward to the cessation of your use of email, then, since the design
> of the email protocols came straight out of the IETF...

  Incorrect.  ARPANET was one of the earliest uses of E-Mail.  It
existed long before the IETF was even envisioned.

>
>
> --
> Kent Crispin                               "Be good, and you will be
> kent@songbird.com                           lonesome." -- Mark Twain
> --
>

Regards,

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