[ga-full] Re: [ga] lawyers can at times be suck clowns - or the future of theGA@DNSO.org

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Jeff Joe and all remaining assembly members,

  I would agree with both of you here.  On the one hand we have
the Berkman Center attempting to bring a separate venue of
which no one is paying any attention to, to provide for an alternate
view point yet not engaging "Where the action Is" those that have
either no position yet at all or are entrenched in their positions 
not listening or even wanting to listen to all points of view openly.

  The Berkmans effort is laudable, but no likely to be effective.
It's ideals as Jeff emphasized are relevant to any and all venues
where these debates and discussions are engaged.

David "Dude" Jenson
INEGRoup-West Director

In a message dated 2/22/00 4:38:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com writes:

<< Joe and all,
 
   Agreed to a point.  The software that they are using is from Duke 
University
 called "Web Board".  Not very easy to use as a standard Mailing list is
 much better.  I have informed Diane Cambell of that short coming.  I also
 noticed that very few if any are participating.  I think this is because the
 software  is as you indirectly indicate, and I have passed on to the 
Berkman center and  Diane that it is not very useful.
 
   I would say that the idea is good one and does offer a much more open
 discourse platform.
 To Wit:
 "One part of the deliberative process is education; however, software for 
this
 purpose is readily available. Text, audio and video files can all be 
downloaded
 to provide briefing and other background information; therefore, the Berkman 
Center's report will not focus on the delivery of introductory educational 
materials. Nor will we consider in-depth methods for selecting a 
statistically representative sample of the community; for this phase of the
 Open Governance study, we are assuming that any individual can join the
 discourse, given minimal authentication of identity. Instead, we are 
focusing on the challenges unique to deliberation, namely the ability 
to freely discuss an issue, to clearly hear dissenting viewpoints and to find 
an acceptable resolution that is considered valid and authentic by the 
community."
 
   I would be nice and prudent for the DNSO to adopt this approach, which it
 once had prior to recent questionable practices.
 
 
 !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
 
 > I see the Berkman boys have been doing extreme work with their tools.  And
 > the Markel Foundation is paying for it.  This "software" should be
 > somewhat entertaining.  I do have serious doubts it will amount to
 > anything of value - except for more ICANN/IBM/Berman propaganda.
 >
 > Little Ben Edleman our Berkman resident control freak and all purpose lier
 > in training must be having a ball with this one, as it looks like an
 > attempt to gain control of the processes.  For all it worth - here's the
 > data on this.
 >
 >  * Open Governance--a New Framework for Deliberative Democracy: As part of
 >  our effort to encourage civic participation in Internet governance,  the
 >  Berkman Center is working to create a specification for software for
 >  online deliberation, grounded in the theory of consensus and discourse
 >  generally. Sponsored by the Markle Foundation, the specification is for
 >  use in the deliberative processes of the Internet Corporation for Assigned
 >  Names and Numbers (ICANN) but also to facilitate deliberation on other
 >  issues of importance to online and offline communities, and for education.
 >  We are sharing our work-in-progress in order to solicit substantive
 >  feedback from the Internet community at large. Follow the link below to
 >  learn more:
 >
 >       <http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projects/deliberation/>
 >
 
 Regards,
 
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