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RE: [registrars] expiry date and creation date dont match

so, we should have a rule of 60 days waiting period to address errors, and
provide for exceptions based on clear evidence such as the udrp complaint

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Hall [mailto:rob@momentous.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:45 PM
To: Registrars Mail List
Subject: RE: [registrars] expiry date and creation date dont match

I think there are cases where you would both want the 60 days and some cases
where you would not want it.

Rather than a standard across registrars, I would prefer to have some
flexibility here.

I agree with Tim that in most cases of a change of ownership it is agreeable
to keep it for a period of time.

However, there are cases where the transfer of ownership was due to a
dispute, such as a UDRP result.  In cases like these, we would not want to
have to lock the customer down for the 60 days.

So my preference would be to not create a mandatory standard, but to leave
it to the registrars discretion as to whether to implement one and in what


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On
Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:32 AM
To: registrars@dnso.org
Subject: Re: [registrars] expiry date and creation date dont match


Actually, I think the 60 day hold on transfers when a domain changes
ownership is a good idea. We are considering that ourselves. Especially
since our experience has been that not all registrars are as cooperative as
we try to be when something goes wrong. If the domain is still with us when
am issue arises over a change of ownership, we will be in a much better
position to correct any errors.


 -------- Original Message --------
   Subject: Re: [registrars] expiry date and creation date dont match
   From: Patrick <dnso-reg@gandi.net>
   Date: Wed, April 10, 2002 7:27 am
   To: "Registrars@Dnso. Org" <registrars@dnso.org>

   On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:38:36PM +0530, Bhavin Turakhia took time to
   > can anyone tell me when would something like this happen -
   >    DOMAIN: kinminks.com
   >    Record last updated on 25-Mar-2002.
   >    Record expires on 04-Sep-2002.
   >    Record created on 25-Mar-2002.
   > note that the record is created on 25-Mar-2002, but expires on
   > 4th-Sep-2002 - which is less than a year
   > Additoinal info:
   > * the domain is currently regstered with netsol
   > * the domain was earlier with namezero

   AFAIK this means the owner name was changed.

   Netsol changes the creation date with an ownership change, and then
   refuses to transfer domain names (rule of 60 days). I already asked
   ICANN about this, and they seem to be OK with that.

   But we had many customers with Namezero : they asked for a
   change of ownership (to be able later on to do the transfer),
   which was done late by Namezero/Netsol, thus the domain was near
   expired, and unable to be transfered to us.

   Patrick Mevzek.

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