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Re: [ga] Privacy and Whois databases

Hi everybody.

Dont use the word "owner" of a domain !
The fact is, that you dont "own" anything, but the right to
use a certain domain.
IF you were "owner" of a domain, then nobody could take it
away, just because you didnt pay some fee to the registry.
You could at the most be "sat on hold", BUT NOT removed.
I think, that the word "holder" is a much more precice word.

Per Koelle
DK Hostmaster

On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Annie Renard wrote:

>  In your previous mail you wrote:
> 	     The dot.god and dot.satan top level domains will both support
> 	     anonymous registrations.  
> 	 I'm not familiar with dot.god and dot.satan and some web searches turn
> 	ed
> 	 up nothing.  Could you elucidate please?
> 	     Any addressing information is between the
> 	     registrar and the domain holder, and not the business of anyone el
> 	se.
> 	 May I ask on what basis you make this statement?  
> 	 The agreement that registrars make with ICANN
> 	    http://www.icann.org/nsi/icann-raa-28sept99.htm
> 	 says in Part F, Public Access to Data on SLD Registrations
> 	 that the `name and postal address of the SLD holder' must be listed/ma
> 	de
> 	 available in whois.   Admittedly `holder' is somewhat vague and you
> 	 might be able to argue that this could be the registrar or some agent
> 	 registration, on behalf of the person/organization who actually reques
> 	ted
> 	 the domain name and will own it.
> no, the SLD holder MUST be the registrant (admin contact in the organization
> requesting the domain name) which own the domain name, not the registrar.
> There are many problems with some registrars which "keep" the registered
> domaine name and the registrant have big difficulties to delegate its 
> domain name to another registrar.
> 	 I hope so.  I'd very much prefer to not list the domain name owner
> 	 contact information, and am searching for arguments to help our legal
> 	 folks buy into the idea.
> in the WHOIS database we need "professional" information of the
> administrative contact in its organisation, not some "private" information.
> ---
>         Annie Renard    [nic@nic.fr]
>         AFNIC/NIC France
> 	c/o INRIA domaine de Voluceau BP105, 78153 Le Chesnay CEDEX, France
> 	http://www.nic.fr/
> 	Personal Email: Annie.Renard@nic.fr