[council] NC teleconf minutes July 24, 2002
Dear Council Members,
Please find the minutes of the last teleconference below.
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DNSO Names Council Teleconference on 24 July 2002 - minutes
25 July 2002.
Proposed agenda and related documents
List of attendees:
Elisabeth Porteneuve ccTLD
Oscar Robles Garay ccTLD absent, apologies,proxy to Elisabeth Porteneuve
Philip Sheppard Business
Marilyn Cade Business
Grant Forsyth Business
Greg Ruth ISPCP absent
Antonio Harris ISPCP
Tony Holmes ISPCP absent, apologies, proxy to Tony Harris
Philipp Grabensee Registrars
Ken Stubbs Registrars
Bruce Tonkin Registrars
Roger Cochetti gTLD
Jordyn Buchanan gTLD
Cary Karp gTLD
Ellen Shankman IP
Laurence Djolakian IP
J. Scott Evans IP absent, apologies, proxy Ellen Shankman, Laurence
Harold Feld NCDNH
Chun Eung Hwi NCDNH
Erick Iriate NCDNH
16 Names Council Members
Louis Touton ICANN Staff
Glen de Saint Géry NC Secretary
Philippe Renaut MP3 Recording Engineer/Secretariat
MP3 recording of the meeting by the Secretariat:
Quorum present at 15:10 (all times reported are CET which is UTC + 2 during
summer time in the northern hemisphere).
Philip Sheppard chaired this NC teleconference.
Approval of the Agenda
The agenda was approved with a proposal by Ken Stubbs to discuss the NC
Decision 1: Secretariat will post a proposed election schedule to be agreed
upon at the next NC teleconference on August 1, 2002.
Item 1. Summary of last meeting:
Ken Stubbs moved the adoption of the minutes seconded by Ellen Shankman,
The motion was carried.
Decision 2: Motion adopted.
Item 3: Wait Listing Service - report and vote to adopt
Supporting material and substantive submissions on WLS
Marilyn Cade, task force chair, invited Louis Touton be on the call. She
reported that the report content had not changed from the draft seen earlier
by the NC but the format now corresponded to the standard specified in NC
procedures. In accordance with the procedures also additional statements and
supporting material would be incorporated into the report to be sent to the
Board. She walked through a summary of the final report and the
recommendations that the task force had adopted.
Discussion: Harold Feld asked if the summary of general comments appear in
the report. It was confirmed that they were in part III 3.
Philip Sheppard proposed that after discussion the NC would vote to adopt
the recommendations and the report. Roger Cochetti suggested that the Task
Force should not bind or restrict the Names Council. He went on to suggest
that the report's elements could be voted on rather than the whole. Bruce
Tonkin asked that a definition of WLS with a reference to the version should
be added to the report. It was agreed Marilyn Cade would ask Chuck Gomes of
Versign to provide text.
Ellen Shankman asked what would happen if the Board rejected the report's
recommendation to deny the WLS proposal. Louis Touton explained he believed
that putting forward the community views was more important than consensus.
A question over the membership of the Task Force was raised but Council did
not think it appropriate to spend time on that issue so late in the day. To
the general point underlying the question of task force composition, the
Chair asked the position of the the by-laws on the exclusion of
constituencies from participating in an NC sub-group. Louis Touton said
that the exclusion of constituencies would present concerns under the
Ken Stubbs expressed concern about the recommendation on cost and proposed
an amendment to remove that recommendation. Grant Forsyth spoke against
saying that price is a key issue and is properly considered and reported.
Louis Touton said that a principle was being put forward in the report which
gained support and no specific price was being proposed.
Philip Sheppard moved for a vote of adoption for the report as a whole.
15 voted in favour, 3 voted against (the members of the gTLD constituency) 1
abstention (IPC). Greg Ruth was absent, no proxy given. The motion carried
with a greater than two-thirds majority making this a consensus policy
recommendation of the DNSO. This reflected the vote within the task force
itself on the recommendations.
Decision 3: Report adopted
Roger Cochetti stated after the vote that he believed that the Task Force
and Names Council had gone beyond their proper role over this policy issue.
The Chair replied that the NC had responded to a question from the ICANN
Board in the way it thought most appropriate and helpful to the Board.
Item 5: Status of 2002 fees
Constituencies reported on the status of their payments.
The BC, IP and Registrars are fully paid for 2002 fees.
The ISPCP constituency reported that they would be paying shortly, by the
end of August.
The non-commercials had received duplicates of the appropriate invoices and
were distributing them.
The gTLD constituency said that they had the intent to pay 2002 fees but
could not give a date.
Item 4: ICANN Reform and proposed Resolution.
This was deferred to the next meeting
The teleconference ended at 16:30
Next NC teleconference will be on Thursday August 1 at 15:00 Paris time,
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