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         GNSO Council WHOIS Task Force Teleconference on 5 February 2003 - minutes | 
  
Attendees: 
  
  CBUC - Marilyn Cade - Co-Chair 
  CBUC - Bret Fausett
  Registry - Becky Burr 
  Registrar - Ken Stubbs 
  Former GA Chair - Thomas Roessler 
  Former GA additional - Kristy McKee 
  IPIC - Steve Metalitz 
  IPIC - Laurence Djolakian 
  Non Com Users Constit. - Ruchika Agrawal 
  
  Louis Touton - ICANN General Counsel 
  
  
  Apologies
  ISCPC - Tony Harris - co- chair 
GNSO Sec - Glen de Saint Géry 
  
  Marilyn Cade noted the inputs to be addressed.
  
  1. Letter from the International Working Group on Data Protection in Telecommunications 
  
  http://www.datenschutz-berlin.de/doc/int/iwgdpt/index.htm
  (Thomas Roessler brought this to the attention of the task force)
  Kenn Stubbs contribution
  http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/registrars/Arc02/msg00246.html 
   
  http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-whois/Arc00/msg00864.html
  Thomas Roessler draft Final report
  http://does-not-exist.net/final-report/final-report-feb03-030205.html 
  
  
  3. Practical Recommendations: Accuracy of WHOIS Data.
  Changed to: Recommendations to ICANN and Registrars
B. (inserted; based on part 3 of the 
  WHOIS implementation committee's work) strike
  Changed to:
  The following process should be employed in handling accuracy.
  
  Steve Metalitz commented on
  5. For a name to be removed from REGISTRAR-HOLD status to active status, 
  the registrant must contact the registrar with updated WHOIS information (as 
  per (3) above), and the registrar must confirm that the registrant is contactable 
  via this new information (for example by requiring that the registrant respond 
  to an e-mail sent to a new e-mail contact address).
  The change suggested by Steve, was to delete "example" and add" 
  including but limited to".
  Ken Stubbs said that this involves costs, and Steve maintained 
  that the Registrar should cover the costs from registrants and not the complainant.
  Ken Stubbs referring to:
  http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/registrars/Arc02/msg00246.html 
  
  mentioned that responses had been received from a large number of registrars 
  to Bruce Tonkin's response. He argued that what was being understood on face 
  value was not the same as the written text and that there would have to be sound 
  communication on this point.
  The critical issue is egregious registrations.
  Louis Touton said that it seemed to presume that the reason it went on 
  register hold was because of an e-mail address.
  Marilyn Cade said that the task force had not assumed e-mail, but had 
  assumed when the registrar did not get a response.
  Who is responsible for accurate data, the 
  registrar or the registrant?
  Louis Touton stated that the obligation of accuracy and updating has 
  to do with all elements of WHOIS data whatever it is that it requires.
  As described in a note about the 15 days there can be different consequences 
  in terms of different registrar enforcement.
  The registrant is responsible for updating their data even as trivial as zip 
  codes, phone numbers, fax etc. Alternatively, the registrar has the authority 
  to put on registrar hold or delete if the registrant refuses to fix something.
Louis Touton commenting on:
  4. If no response is received or no acceptable data has been provided 
  after a time limit (to be agreed) a registrar must place a name in REGISTRAR-HOLD 
  (or equivalent) status, until the registrant has updated the WHOIS information.
  stated that the word "acceptable" 
  should be of concern to those developing policy. The standard the registrar 
  is supposed to be applying is the one about accuracy and reliability stated 
  in the contract.
  Further, it was stated that the registrars are correct that the contractual 
  obligation is to use reasonable steps to get accurate data.
  Ken Stubbs commented that as the 
  registrar is responsible for assessing the situation and the solution would 
  depend on the registrars assessment as to how egregious the registration is, 
  the registrars' attention should be drawn to this in a preamble and it would 
  solve issues the registrars have with the report. 
  
  Louis Touton expressed two more concerns about section B and proposed 
  sending a text that would address these.
  1. the repeated use of the word "must" is in contrast to the purpose 
  that is recommendations to registrars. "Should" would give less resistance.
  2. If viewed as recommendations to registrars, it would  
  be useful and important to have a clear statement informing registrars 
  that it is not necessarily true that the following these practices will comply 
  with the registrar's obligations under the registrar agreement.
  
  
  section 3:
  Input received both from the implementation committee and in public comments 
  indicates a strong desire in parts of the community to extend the 15 day period 
  currently specified in section 3.7.7.2 of the RAA. The concerns expressed were 
  based on the interpretation that the 15 day period was mandatory. 
  Communication received from ICANN's General Counsel indicates that the "current 
  contractual structure of requiring the registrar to retain the right to cancel 
  if the customer fails to respond in 15 days, but not requiring the registrar 
  to exercise this right is intended to give the registrar the flexibility to 
  use good judgment to determine what action should be taken upon a customer's 
  failure to respond to an inquiry about a Whois inaccuracy." This interpretation 
  of the contractual language seems to address the concerns raised.
  
  Added language:
  "given the flexibility provided, the task force is not making a policy 
  recommendation on this issue"
  
  Section D.
  ICANN should modify and supplement its May 10, 2002 registrar advisory as follows:
  ICANN should remind registrars that "willful provision of inaccurate or unreliable 
  information" is a material breach of the registration agreement, without regard 
  to any failure to respond to a registrar inquiry. A functional definition -- 
  based on the actual usability of contact details -- should be used for “inaccurate 
  or unreliable”. 
  (mostly deleted and replaced by recommendation B above)ICANN should clearly 
  state to registrars that "accepting unverified 'corrected' data from a registrant 
  that has already deliberately provided incorrect data is not [not "may not be," 
  as the advisory now states] appropriate.
  
  Louis Touton commented that the paragraph was directed at having to verify 
  the data, but the registrar could accept the registrants explanation even without 
  verifying the data.
  The changed language:
  ICANN should clearly state to registrars that "accepting unverified 'corrected' 
  data from a registrant that has already deliberately provided incorrect data 
  generally is not [not "may not be," as the advisory now states] appropriate." 
  
  
  The task force agreed that the rest of the section D be deleted.
  
Section E 
  2. Registrars should also be responsible for ensuring that their agents provide 
  such reminders. 
  
Marilyn Cade proposed the following 
  change:
  Registrars should also notify their agents that they should provide such reminders.
  
The remaining section was accepted.
  
  The Review Process
  Louis Touton asked what the task force was trying to gain, to which Marilyn 
  Cade replied that the registrars and others had felt there should be ongoing 
  feedback.
  Louis Touton said that it should be thought out in terms of support for 
  the policy development process. Requesting staff support for the policy development 
  process in the GNSO. Rather than structuring so much, it should be said that 
  the GNSO Council requests that ICANN staff provides reports at 3, 6, 12 months 
  on these points and depending on the analysis of the situation after 12 months 
  the GNSO Council will consider whether further reports are required.
  Marilyn Cade suggested wording:
  GNSO Council will advise the ICANN staff of communicating any additional needed 
  support.
  Louis Touton noted that Bret Fausett's comment had not been corrected 
  as should have been done.
  
  4. Registrars should be 
  encouraged to develop, in consultation with other interested parties, “best 
  practices” concerning the “reasonable efforts” which should be undertaken to 
  investigate reported inaccuracies in contact data (RAA Section 3.7.8). 
  "Best practices" was discussed and Becky Burr said there were 
  two options:
  - making it mandatory, so changing the term
  - making it voluntary so leaving the present term.
Becky Burr concurred with "best practices", and Marilyn 
  Cade explained that it was seeking self-governance among the registrars.
  
  
  Recommendations 
  1. Consensus Policies: Accuracy of WHOIS Data. 
  These two policies match the alternative wording proposed in the Implementation 
  Committee's report, sections 1 and 2, which was accepted by the WHOIS Task Force. 
  
  A. At least annually, a registrar must present to the Registrant the current 
  WHOIS information, and remind the registrant that provision of false WHOIS information 
  can be grounds for cancellation of their domain name registration. Registrants 
  must review their WHOIS data, and make any corrections. 
  B. When registrations are deleted on the basis of submission of false contact 
  data or non-response to registrar inquiries, the redemption grace period -- 
  once implemented -- should be applied. However, the redeemed domain name should 
  be placed in registrar hold status until the registrant has provided updated 
  WHOIS information to the registrar-of-record. The Task Force observes that the 
  purpose of this policy is to make sure that the redemption process cannot be 
  used as a tool to bypass registrar's contact correction process. 
Thomas Roessler asked Louis 
  Touton for alternate wording which would clearly state that these recommendations 
  were not mandatory but are both consensus policy and requested advice to ICANN 
  and registrars.
  Louis Touton commented that a clear mark should be made between consensus 
  policy that will be binding on parties contracting to ICANN and what is not 
  intended in that light.
  Commenting on part 2 section 1, Louis Touton said that it was an implementation 
  comment. It was framed in a way that presumes a specific kind of implementation 
  change to the language of the registrars Accreditation Agreement. Changing the 
  language of the Registrars Accreditation Agreement would literally take ICANN 
  5 years to implement because of the 5 year cycle of the RAA and the inability 
  legally to require registrars to enter into new RAAs during the term of those.
  What is meant is that the obligations expressed in the RAA should be modified 
  to what is described and there should not be an opinion expressed as to how 
  that should be done.
  Express the idea that what is being recommended is consensus policy and that 
  registrar agreements should be adjusted in this way, but how it should be done 
  should be left to the ICANN Staff.
  
  A. Use of bulk access WHOIS data for marketing should not be permitted. The 
  Task Force therefore recommends that the relevant provisions of the RAA be modified 
  or deleted to eliminate the use of bulk access WHOIS data for marketing purposes.
  Section 3.3.6.3 of the RAA should be changed to read as follows (changed language 
  underlined): "Registrar's access agreement shall require the third party to 
  agree 
  Added language: 
  Use of bulk access WHOIS data for marketing should not be permitted. The 
  Task Force therefore recommends that the obligations contained in the relevant 
  provisions of the RAA be modified to eliminate the use of bulk access WHOIS 
  data for marketing purposes. The obligation currently expressed in section 3.3.6.3 
  of the  RAA 
  could, for instance, be changed to read as follows
  
  The 
  bulk-access provision contained in 3.3.6.6 of the RAA would then become inapplicable. 
  
  
  Section 3.3.6.5 of the Registrar Accreditation Agreement currently describes 
  an optional clause of registrars' bulk access agreements, which disallows further 
  resale or redistribution of bulk WHOIS data by data users. 
  The use of this clause shall be made mandatory. 
  
  Thomas made changes to the Input section
  
  Marilyn Cade mentioned the European Commission and working group and 
  Louis Touton stated that it was important to proceed in a way that is 
  respectful of the constraints they have to operate in. Acknowledging their contribution 
  was important.
  
  Further steps: 
  - Edit all the comments and incorporate into the Final Report 
  - Posting report for public comment on the DNSO web site on February 6
  - Posting report for public comment 
  on the ICANN web site on February 6
  - Posting to the Council, Constituencies,
Marilyn Cade thanked Louis Touton and Anne-Rachel Inne as well as all the Task Force members for participating
The 
  meeting ended at 19:30 (CET)
  
  Steve Metalitz and Ken Stubbs left 
  the call for a short interval 17:55(CET)
  Steve Metalitz rejoined the call at 18:00, (CET)
  Louis Touton and Anne-Rachel Inne joined the call at 18:10 (CET)
  
   
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