DNSO Names Council Teleconference on 26 September 2002 - minutes
27 September 2002.
Proposed agenda and related documents
List of attendees:
Elisabeth Porteneuve ccTLD Oscar Robles Garay ccTLD absent, apologies, proxy to Elisabeth Porteneuve Philip Sheppard Business Marilyn Cade Business Grant Forsyth Business Greg Ruth ISPCP absent, apologies, proxy to Antonio Harris Antonio Harris ISPCP Tony Holmes ISPCP absent, apologies, proxy to Antonio Harris Philipp Grabensee Registrars Ken Stubbs Registrars Bruce Tonkin Registrars Roger Cochetti gTLD Jordyn Buchanan gTLD Cary Karp gTLD Ellen Shankman IP Laurence Djolakian IP absent J. Scott Evans IP Harold Feld NCDNH Chun Eung Hwi NCDNH Erick Iriate NCDNH absent, apologies, proxy to Harold Feld 15 Names Council Members Glen de Saint Géry NC Secretary Philippe Renaut MP3 Recording Engineer/Secretariat
MP3 recording of the meeting by the Secretariat:
The Secretary read the list of
names and the vote of each member.
Alejandro Pisanty 15 votes, YJ Park 2 votes, 2 abstentions, 1 ballot not received at close of vote.
Ken Stubbs proposed the motion:
that the votes be ratified by the Names Council that Alejandro Pisanty is elected as ICANN Board Member
seconded by Elisabeth Porteneuve.
A formal notification would be sent to the ICANN Board, announcing the results.
The vote was unanimously ratified by the Council.
Decision 1: Approval of the Names Council vote: Alejandro Pisanty elected as ICANN Board Member.
Ken Stubbs expressed concern that 2 of the 3 resolutions involved the
structure and policy of the Generic Names Supporting Organisation (GNSO) and
felt that it was inappropriate for the ccTLDs to cast votes for a Supporting
Organisation that they would not be part of in the future.
Elisabeth Porteneuve drew the Council's attention to the fact that the
ccTLDs were still part of the DNSO and had just taken part in the ICANN Board
elections. Similar comments were made by Marilyn Cade and Grant Forsyth
who said that the contribution of each constituency was important in the
Bruce Tonkin noted that we were currently operating under the Rules of
Procedure for the Names Council.
Bruce Tonkin summarized resolution: Geographic diversity needs to be
a reality, sufficient council members are needed to share the workload and while
the Evolution and Reform Committee has allowed 3 representatives per constituency
for the transition year the situation should be reviewed after 12 months so
that an intelligent decision based on the merits of competing arguments and
experience can be made.
Discussion on the resolution highlighted fears that the Board would become too big if additional constituencies were added later, it was felt that the number issue is a flawed assumption, and that the nature of each constituency is different
Philip Sheppard agreed to amend the resolution saying a further review may also be necessary should new constituencies be created.
Ellen Shankman had to leave the call and gave her proxy to J.Scott Evans.
Bruce Tonkin summarized resolution 2 addressing stakeholder representation
the basis of which today is having equal votes, and that any variation, 4+4+3
votes, would be unacceptable to the Council. The reason behind the shift of
power is to achieve a balance between contracted parties and users.
Discussion on the resolution raised the point that it could be seen as a self-interested resolution if it came to pass It is a high level principle of ICANN that has been changed and in an amended form merits support with competition being removed. Philip Sheppard agreed to amend and present a shorter resolution.
Philip Sheppard had to leave the call and gave his proxy to Marilyn Cade..
Bruce Tonkin summarized Elisabeth Porteneuve's resolutions, the
first draft having provoked some discussion and letters from Vint Cerf and Stuart
Lynn to the Names Council acknowledging that there were questions arising in
the IANA practice of obtaining and reviewing zone files and that the objectives
of the practice should be re-examined by the Security Committee. The resolution
addressed stability of the Internet, important in the White Paper, a recent
Carrier bankruptcy that needed secondary Name Servers to be removed and updated
in the IANA database, some of the ccTLD manager's dissatisfaction with IANA
functions, while it resolved that there was an emergency situation related to
Name Servers, that updates should be processed immediately as well as the updating
of day to day data, and the protection of overall data accuracy.
Marilyn Cade said that it addressed an issue that was of broad concern to the Names Council, accuracy of data in data bases, however she felt it should be edited to get an upper level resolution that would be supported. This was echoed by other members and Cary Karp felt it should be separated into 2 motions.
Bruce Tonkin suggested separating the resolution from the response to Vint Cerf and Stuart Lynn's letter and said that the Names Council was the appropriate place to handle the matter. Elisabeth was asked to redraft the resolution.
Harold Feld suggested that the Names Council replies to the Department of Commerce's renewal of the Memorandum of Understanding and the fundamental points that have already been discussed in the Names Council and not taken into account, should be revisited.
Marilyn Cade suggested that there be a discussion on the Role of Governments saying that there was a shift of some governments about the role of Government.
Bruce Tonkin requested that Harold Feld and Marilyn Cade create discussion documents and post to the council list prior to discussion at the names council meeting in Shanghai.
Bruce Tonkin thanked everyone for their participation.
Next NC teleconference will be on Thursday October 3, 2002, 15:00 Paris time, 13:00 UTC/GMT
See all past agendas and minutes at http://www.dnso.org/dnso/2002calendardnso.html
and calendar of the NC meetings at http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2002.NC-calendar.html
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