[nc-transfer] Fw: [registrars] FINAL: Inter-Registrar Domain Name Transfers: Principles and Processes for Gaining and Losing Registrars
Comments from a member of the registrar constituency regarding the Interim
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Stahura" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
To: "'Ross Wm. Rader'" <email@example.com>
Cc: "Kelsie Greear" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 8:00 PM
Subject: RE: [registrars] FINAL: Inter-Registrar Domain Name Transfers:
Principles and Processes for Gaining and Losing Registrars
> On 3)e)
> "e) A Losing Registrar may deny a transfer request only in the following
> I assume the reasons apply to single transfer requests.
> For example for UDRP, if there is a UDRP dispute for one name, the losing
> registrar cannot deny all transfers, correct?
> Please change "..may deny a transfer request.." to "...may deny a
> transfer request..." to make it clearer.
> If there is a court order to deny all transfer requests, then obviously it
> applies to all.
> As for "evidence of fraud"... I believe this is the biggest loophole.
> Who judges what is "evidence"? Fraud on who's part?
> If you can clarify what is "evidence" that would be good,
> Maybe something like a third-party (like a judge) says it (whatever it is)
> really is evidence of fraud or something.
> At least make it clear that it is always on a case by case basis:
> Any legitimate transfer cannot be denied because another transfer is not
> Can this be one of the principals?
> We do not want to give any losing registrar a loophole to block all
> transfers to a gaining registrar.
> Blocking all transfers should be the decision of the registry or some
> authority, not unilaterally done by a registrar.
> On f)"iii) Domain name in Registrar Lock Status"
> the losing registrar does not get the request from the registry and so has
> no way to ack or nack.
> Any name that is on lock at eNom was put there by the registrant and the
> registrant so doing has
> giving standing orders that the name not be transferred.
> So, any registrar doing so is in compliance with vii "vi)Express objection
> from the Registrant or Administrative contact" in the section above,
> In disputes section where is "9.a.i above." should that be "8.a.1"?
> The section numbers need to be re-worked they are confusing to me.
> I guess the document just got longer than expected.
> How about a consistent 1 then 1.1 then 1.1.1 then 220.127.116.11 etc for
> The dispute part talks about single names.
> I suspect disputes will arise for large qty of names.
> Hope I'm wrong on that.
> On page 7
> "email address matching Registrant or Administrative Contact email address
> found in authoritative Whois database"
> You mean an email exchange, correct? Not just an email addresses from
> someone that matches the contact, as that can easily be forged.
> In this same section, wouldn't possession of auth-code be at least as good
> form of ID that the possessor of the code is the registrant.
> I'll checkout the rest in detail, but the rest looks good on my 1st scan.
> Excellent work.
> And thank you for your time.
> Feel free to post to transfers TF list.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ross Wm. Rader [mailto:email@example.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 6:16 AM
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Subject: [registrars] FINAL: Inter-Registrar Domain Name Transfers:
> Principles and Processes for Gaining and Losing Registrars
> I would like to draw your attention to the final policy draft concerning
> transfers. It can be found at
> The Task Force will be soliciting formal public comment shorlty. As TF
> I will also be soliciting the input of the constituency in parallel,
> effective immediately. Please feel free to share your comments with me via
> this list or offline via email or voice via any of the numbers below.
> Ross Wm. Rader
> Director, Innovation & Research
> Tucows Inc.
> tel: 416.538.5492
> fax: 416.531.1257