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RE: [nc-budget] Proposed Jan-June 2003 NC budget
 
I have 
intentionally not participated in this discussion in order to 
encourage the on-line conversation about the budget for next year to 
evolve.   
  
Bruce 
is correct and the Committee will have a recommendation but before I put 
anything forward, I like to see if any other members of the Committee have a 
view. 
  
Thanks, 
  
Roger 
Cochetti 
Chair 
Names 
Council Budget Committee 
  
  
  Bruce, not all constituencies can be measured by the "size" of the 
  membership. But I think that your suggestion to think about association 
  membership needs to be considered in the following light. Companies do pay 
  higher dues to associations who provide specific membership services to 
  them... Companies also join, at lesser fees, groups and coalitions, which 
  represent specific needs or interests. The latter would not generate the same 
  dues which the former would..... 
    
  Fees 
  should be left to the constituencies; but there is some need to set a 
  threshold of sustainability, and I agree with that. Otherwise, we could have a 
  "sugar daddy" model where a company  or foundation could be asked to 
  "fund" a constituency, and it essentially is a sham operation. Even if 
  innocently so, on the part of the participants.  
    
  So, 
  there needs to be some degree of self funding. and, no, I don't think that 
  individuals can expect to be subsidized to participate. Individuals fund 
  groups that they care about. They pay in smaller amounts than companies, but 
  they do pay... There might be a provision for  a "kick start" of 
  financial support from a third party  who is truly neutral for the 
  establishment of an infrastructure, but without sustainable contributions by 
  the members, there cannot be a "constituency".  
    
  That 
  doesn't mean that scholarships to attend meetings are out of order... just 
  that the structure of the constituency needs to be self 
  supporting... 
  
    
    If 
    at all possible I would like the budget committee to agree on a number that 
    it can recommend to the NC for decision. 
    We 
    don't have time on the NC call to debate the detail. 
      
    From my personal point of view, constituencies to 
    be viable should be raising at least this level of funding to be viable 
    constituencies in their own right (ie to cover administration, 
    teleconferences etc associated with running any non-profit 
    organisation).  Constituencies should be thinking about the level of 
    funding they need to operate as a whole, and the DNSO fees are just part of 
    their costs.  A focus on DNSO costs will get a constituency nowhere - 
    as it then starts becoming a political argument which usually revolves 
    around whether we should pay anything at all. 
      
    The total per constituency costs of the DNSO are 
    less than most medium size companies pay other trade associations for 
    membership (e.g it is less than Melbourne IT pays for membership of the 
    Internet Industry Association http://www.iia.net.au in 
    Australia).   A constituency budget might be based on say 50 
    members paying $500 each, or 500 members paying $50 
each. 
      
    Regards, 
    Bruce 
      
    
      
      I support Philip's recommendations. It is clear that the 
      constituencies will have difficulties in raising funding, and this is a 
      much more achievable objective. Philip, thanks for doing this extra work! 
       
        
      Can other constituency reps comment? 
        
      Marilyn 
      
        
        Budget Committee, 
        Time pressures meant that all voting members of the 
        Budget Committee left before the end of the November 20 call, leaving 
        Roger in the uncomfortable position of no one else to vote 
        on the budget! Unfortunately, also the idea agreed to earlier in 
        the call, to adjust the reserves in light of the end of the DNSO and a 
        six month budget was not done. The Budget was left 
        at something over USD 9000 per constituency for six months - ie 25% up 
        on last year pro-rata. This seems unachievable, given our payments 
        history. 
          
        Please see attached a revised proposal for your 
        consideration. I have checked with Glen and got a new conservative 
        figure for the reserves expected at the end of 2002 (USD 25,000). The 
        assumption of the budget is: 
        -  Six months costs based on 2002 actuals 
        provided by Glen. 
        - (As in 2002, Indicate but do not budget for 
        task force telephone conferences - they continue to be sponsored until 
        July 2003). 
        - Deduct the USD 25, 000 surplus cash in 
        hand. 
        - ADD a cash-flow contingency of USD 10,000 to cover 
        any late payment by up to 2 constituencies. 
          
        The net result is a call per constituency of USD 4950 
        per constituency. 
        I hope you can support this. The figure is 
        conservative and I believe achievable to collect. Please indicate to 
        Roger and the Budget Committee if you support this. 
          
        Philip 
              
 
 
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