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[ga] Thretening remarks from one of your Partners - Spcl. Attn. Don Heath, Vint Cerf, and other ICANN BOD members Et Al..


Don and ICANN BOD members,

  This evening I received, along with Jim Flemming some threatening
remarks
regarding a post replied to by myself originating from Jim Flemming
from one of your Partners Don. (See copy below)  I would kindly request
and strongly suggest that you take a few moments to council Mr. Joffe
to tread very carefully in the near future.

  To Vint Cerf and the ICANN BoD and staff.  It is also of great concern

and displeasure that I regretfully inform you as well that these sorts
of
threatening remarks and innuendoes are disparaging, disruptive and
damaging to the stakeholders of .ORG domains of which I, and many
of our members are among.  We find this sort of proposed or suggested
intimidation by Mr Joffe to be on questionable legal ground, and will
take whatever steps are necessary and helpful to rectify or address
these sorts of threats to our INEGroup members or those that
seek INEGroup's assistance that are .ORG registrants in this
unfortunate and distasteful matter.

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Rodney,

  Than why did you send me or Jim a response such as this if our
E-Mail
is not expectable and instead just employ your own filter?  Somehow
I see your remarks below as disingenuous at best.  None the less I
shall refrain from sending you any more E-Mail in the future, Rodney.

  However one more note.  If you wish to sue me or my service
provider,
please understand I shall stand by my service provider in such a suit
and shall leave no stone unturned and file a corresponding suit for
attempting to threaten myself in you comments below as well as
for casting false aspersions.  I shall make sure that all of our
INEGRoup
members are aware of these comments/remarks below...  So in short,
I await you service sir...

Rodney Joffe wrote:

> Mr. Fleming, and Mr. Williams,
>
> Take note. Your mail is NEVER EVER welcome in my mailbox. EVER.
from ANY
> of your sock puppets, aliases, shrinks, or whatever.
>
> I consider ANY mail from you as abuse.
>
> Ameritech, and Netcom, please take note of this as well. If your
users
> EVER communicate with me again, I will take every legal step I can
to
> hold you responsible.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: 0:190     ORGy....How is the $6 per .ORG name per year
> divided ?
> Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 23:30:09 -0600
> From: "Techno.C@T" <JimFleming@ameritech.net>
> Reply-To: "Techno.C@T" <Techno.C@T.vrx.net>
> To: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>, <spike@ultradns.com>
> CC: <mgeist@uottawa.ca>, <espresso@e-scape.net>,
> <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>,<rforno@infowarrior.org>,
<steinle@smartvia.de>,
> <Amadeu@nominalia.com>,<jcohen@shapirocohen.com>,
<junsec@wide.ad.jp>,
> <lyman@acm.org>,<lynn@icann.org>, <mouhamet@next.sn>,
> <vinton.g.cerf@WCOM.COM>,<RLayton@ntia.doc.gov>,
> <nvictory@ntia.doc.gov>, <DEvans@doc.gov>,<censslin@ntia.doc.gov>,
> <chandley@ntia.doc.gov>,"@quasar Internet Solutions, Inc."
> <shore@quasar.net>,<richard.hill@itu.int>, "Stephane Bortzmeyer"
> <bortzmeyer@gitoyen.net>,"Stephen Waters" <swaters@amicus.com>,
> <rjoffe@centergate.com>,"Milton Mueller" <Mueller@syr.edu>,"Michael
> Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law"
> <froomkin@law.miami.edu>,<walts@dorsai.org>, "Richard Henderson"
> <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>,<harivijapur@rediffmail.com>,
> <grant.forsyth@clear.co.nz>,"David Goldstein"
> <goldstein_david@yahoo.com.au>, <brian@reid.org>,"Carl Malamud"
> <carl@media.org>, <cjw@remarque.org>,
> <floyd@icir.org>,<franck@SOPAC.ORG>, <halloran@icann.org>,
> <JMKing@ipro.org>,<kim@centr.org>, <linda@icann.org>, "Barbara
Simons"
> <simons@acm.org>,<St.Amour@ISOC.ORG>, <cook@cookreport.com>,"Declan
> McCullagh" <declan@well.com>, <lauren@pfir.org>,"General Assembly
of the
> DNSO" <ga@dnso.org>
> References: <108601c2b3fd$f6f2cbc0$8500a8c0@repligate>
> <3E1776A3.1DA7717E@ix.netcom.com>
>
> ....How is the $6 per .ORG name per year divided ?
>
> http://www.ultradns.com/news/021028.html
> "the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Board
> of Directors selected the Internet Society (ISOC) as the new
> registry operator of the .ORG top level domain. UltraDNS is ISOC's
> chosen global DNS infrastructure provider for the .ORG TLD."
> ...
> " including .INFO, .COOP, .AERO, .NO (Norway), .LU (Luxembourg),
.IE
> (Ireland), and .CX (Christmas Island). "
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 6:04 PM
> Subject: Re: 0:190 ORGy....How is the $6 per .ORG name per year
divided
> ?
>
> > Jim and all,
> >
> >   From you reference below of,
> >
http://www.icann-ncc.org/pipermail/discuss/2002-January/001200.html :
> >
> >   One wonders how Don Heath can talk out of both sides of his
mouth/keyboard
> > and do it with a straight face publicly.  Obviously he is well
practiced.  But
> > of course we have seen all this before, haven't we?
> >
> > Techno.C@T wrote:
> >
> > >
http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200301/msg00018.html

> > > Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 19:42:16 -0500
> > > From: Rodney Joffe <rjoffe@centergate.com>
> > > To: dave@farber.net
> > > "Enjoy your stay. Will you still be there next week? I'd like
to catch up
> > > with you on a couple of items - I'm in on Tuesday and Wednesday
- the
> > > office is across the freeway."
> > > ====
> > > How is the $6 per .ORG name per year divided ?
> > >
> > > http://www.pir.org
> > > http://www.iana.org/reports/org-report-09dec02.htm
> > > "PIR is a not-for-profit corporation organized under
Pennsylvania law to serve as the .org registry operator."
> > > ======
> > > http://www.publicinterestregistry.org/hiring.html
> > >
http://www.icann-ncc.org/pipermail/discuss/2002-January/001200.html
> > > "By way of full disclosure, I have just recently joined the
board of
> > > Afilias, but in this matter, my interest resides with fully
with ISOC."
> > > http://www.ultradns.com/about/advisors.html
> > > Dr. Dave Farber
> > > Bill Manning
> > > http://www.arin.net/about_us/ab_org_bot.html
> > > Bill Manning
> > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
> > > =================================
> > >
http://www.icann.org/committees/evol-reform/community-communications-to-usdoc.htm

> > >
http://www.bizforward.com/wdc/issues/2002-07/forward40/myforward40.shtml

> > > by Vint Cerf
> > > Senior vice president of Internet Architecture and Technology,
> > > WorldCom
> > > "It gets hard to pick out people who have a lot of impact. The
people who have money left [are important]."
> > > ==========================
> > > http://www.isoc.org/
> > > a.. New! ICANN staff preliminary recommendation: ISOC to manage
.ORG. This preliminary report follows an extensive bidding and
> > > evaluation process.
> > >
===================================================================
> > >
http://www.icann.org/minutes/prelim-report-14oct02.htm#SuccessorOperatorfororgRegistry

> > > (The Board approved the above resolutions by a 11-1-3 vote,
with Mr. Auerbach voting in opposition and Mr. Mueller-Maguhn, Dr.
> > > Pisanty, and Dr. Quaynor abstaining. Dr. Blokzijl was not
present for this portion of the meeting.)
> > > ====
> > > > http://forum.icann.org/org-eval/final-report/pdf00000.pdf
> > > >
> > > > PIR - Public Interest Registry - Pennsylvania
> > > >
> > > > Gerry Baranano - VP of Sales, Nortel
> > > > Frode Greisen - RIPE / ISOC
> > > > Lawrence H. Landweber - ISOC
> > > > Alan Levin - AFNOG, AfriDNS
> > > > Andy Linton - .NZ TLD, Fiji, Niue, APNIC, RIPE
> > > > David W. Maher - ISOC (IAHC/CORE/etc.)
> > > > Marc Rotenberg - EPIC
> > > > Lynn St. Amour - CEO ISOC
> > > >
> > > > Afilias (Hal Lubsen - .INFO, IAHC, CORE and Pennsylvania) as
the "Registry"
> > > > ...they of course out-source to UltraDNS (Rodney
Joffe)...equipment is being
> > > > ordered and a January 1st cut-over is planned...VeriSign is
of course, part of Afilias.
> > > > Dave Faber (Pennsylvania) was of course Jon Postel's thesis
advisor and helped to
> > > > create ICANN as part of the ITAG, following the IAHC
fiasco...
> > > > http://www.ultradns.com/about/advisors.html
> > > >
http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200209/msg00034.html

> > > >
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/gore032199.htm

> > > > ======
> > > >
> > > > http://forum.icann.org/org-eval/final-report/msg00009.html
> > > > ICANN's conduct not only has been, and continues to be,
> > > > inconsistent with the letter and spirit of its Memorandum of
Understanding
> > > > with the U.S. Department of Commerce, but also amounts to a
breach of its
> > > > obligations under its Registry Agreements with VeriSign, Inc.
> > > > ...
> > > > Roger Cochetti
> > > > Senior Vice President and Chief Policy Officer
> > > > ==========================
> > > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/registrars/Arc01/msg03588.html
> > > "How did we let this happen?"
> > > =====
> > > http://www.markletaskforce.org/
> > > http://aspeninstitute.org/c&s/ipp.html
> > > http://www.icann.org/committees/security/
> > > http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0302/call27.html
> > > http://www.ietf.org//mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg18152.html
> > > "if they aren't volunteers, they need space, payroll and
benefit functions,etc."
> > > ====
> > >
http://www.icann-ncc.org/pipermail/discuss/2002-October/002898.html
> > > Hansen, Ken ken.hansen@neustar.biz
> > > "I will let the facts speak for themselves."
> > > ====
> > >
http://www.icann-ncc.org/pipermail/discuss/2002-October/003018.html
> > > David W. Maher dwmaher@attglobal.net
> > > "we look forward to a cooperative approach to foster non
commercial use
> > > of the Internet through expanded use of the .org domain."
> > > =====
> > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/2377447.stm
> > > "US multinationals, which form the backbone of the Irish
economy, are thinking long and hard about locating in Ireland because
> the
> > > infrastructure just isn't there.."
> > > ====
> > > http://www.icann.org/tlds/org/applications/isoc/
> > > The number of employees currently employed by the applicant.
> > >
> > > Eight
> > >
> > > The applicant's total revenue (in US dollars) in the last-ended
fiscal year
> > >
> > > US$2,552,264
> > > ============================================
> > >
http://www.icann.org/tlds/org/applications/isoc/section2.html#c12
> > > Afilias Limited
> > > Office 125
> > > 52 Broomhill Road
> > > Tallaght, Dublin 24 Ireland
> > > =============================================================
> > > http://www.nanog.org
> > > The next NANOG meeting will be held February 9-11, 2003, in
Phoenix, Arizona. Registration opens January 2; see the NANOG27
> > > conference page for more information. Our hosts for this
meeting are Rodney Joffe and UltraDNS. This is the third time Rodney
> has
> > > hosted NANOG, and his generosity is much appreciated!
> > > =====================================
> > > http://www.icannwatch.org
> > > Big Changes Coming to ICANNWatch Thanks to Markle Grant
> > > ====
> > > http://aspeninstitute.org/c&s/ipp.html
> > > David Johnson Wilmer, Cutler, & Pickering, Mark MacCarthy VISA
U.S.A., Inc., Izumi Aizu Asia Network Research, Inc., Ramsen
> >
> > > Betfarhad House Energy & Commerce Committee, ZoŽ Baird The
Markle Foundation, Tara Lemmey LENS Ventures, Esther Dyson EDventure
> > > Holdings, Inc.
> > > ===================================
> > > http://www.cookreport.com/06.06.shtml
> > >
> > > Rodney Joffe, the CTO of Genuity, was kind enough to answer our
questions about Jon's involvement with Genuity. He explained
> that he
> > > prevailed on Jon to join his Board after he sold Bechtel a 75%
interest in Genuity. He did so in order for Jon to make it very
> clear
> > > to Bechtel management the kinds of behavior that were
appropriate in order to be a good citizen within the Internet
community.
> He
> > > also stated that Jon said while he would advise Bechtel about
of some ways in which it could improve the Internet community, he
> > > would never permit himself to be involved in advising Bechtel
how to improve its own interests.
> > >
> > > ================================
> > >
> > >
http://www.cctec.com/maillists/nanog/historical/9711/msg00424.html
> > >
> > >
http://www.icann-ncc.org/pipermail/discuss/2002-December/003124.html
> > > "Verisign has yet to make its payment of the $5 Million
endowment."
> > > ===
> > >
> > > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-full/Arc11/msg02935.html
> > > From: "Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law"
<froomkin@law.miami.edu>
> > > "I suspect the anti-trust bar will be delighted with this
suggestion that
> > > competition be rigorously barred from the namespace."
> > > =====
> > >
> > > "This ought to play well with any company whose stock price is
dependent on a well-functioning Internet."
> > > "This ought to play well with any company whose stock price is
dependent on a well-functioning Internet."
> > > "This ought to play well with any company whose stock price is
dependent on a well-functioning Internet."
> > >
> > >
http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200209/msg00000.html

> > > >  From: "Ole J. Jacobsen" ole@cisco.com
> > > >>  Froomkin seems to have missed that the technical work for
.org is going to
> > > >  > be performed by Afilias, a well-established registry
operator.
> > > From: Adam Peake ajp@glocom.ac.jp
> > > "But information about Afilias' operational performance should
be
> > > available.  The 7 new tlds handed out in 2000 were intended as
a
> > > proof of concept, contracts included rigorous reporting
requirements,
> > > everything from technical performance compliance to marketing
plans.
> > > And that information should have been made public."
> > > =========
> > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/759/eboard.html
> > > Dr. Vint Cerf
> > > Sr. VP, Internet Architecture and Technology
> > > WorldCom, USA
> > > ...
> > > Mr. David Farber
> > > The Alfred Fitler Moore Professor of Telecommunication Systems,
> > > University of Pennsylvania, USA
> > > =======================================
> > >
http://www.bizforward.com/wdc/issues/2002-07/forward40/myforward40.shtml

> > > by Vint Cerf
> > > Senior vice president of Internet Architecture and Technology,
> > > WorldCom
> > > "It gets hard to pick out people who have a lot of impact. The
people who have money left [are important]."
> > > =================================
> > > http://www.ultradns.com/about/advisors.html
> > > http://www.pir.org
> > > http://www.iana.org/reports/org-report-09dec02.htm
> > > "PIR is a not-for-profit corporation organized under
Pennsylvania law to serve as the .org registry operator."
> > > ======
> > > http://www.publicinterestregistry.org/hiring.html
> > >
http://www.icann-ncc.org/pipermail/discuss/2002-January/001200.html
> > > =====
> > > http://www.markletaskforce.org/
> > > http://aspeninstitute.org/c&s/ipp.html
> > > http://www.icann.org/committees/security/
> > > http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0302/call27.html
> > > http://www.ietf.org//mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg18152.html
> > > "if they aren't volunteers, they need space, payroll and
benefit functions,etc."
> > > =============================================================
> > > http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0302/call27.html
> > > Your .ORG tax dollars at work
> > > =====================================
> > >
http://www.icann-ncc.org/pipermail/discuss/2002-February/001384.html
> > > James Love love@cptech.org
> > > Does it deal with the issue of how the prices for registry
services are
> > > set?
> > > ----
> > >
http://www.icann.org/committees/exec-search/ceo-search-announcement-20nov02.htm

> > > http://www.cookreport.com/07.01.shtml
> > > "The IANA Transition Advisory Group (ITAG) is in a sixth ring.
This group (Randy Bush, Geoff Huston, Brian Carpenter, John
> Klensin,
> > > Steve Wolff and Dave Farber) is composed primarily of long time
close associates of Jon Postel. ITAG is appears to be set up to
> > > perform the detailed design of the new IANA corporation.
Drafting the articles of Incorporation and the By-Laws is something
> that
> > > has to be well underway right now for there to be a chance for
Magaziner's timeline to work. Unfortunately, the pattern being
> > > followed is very similar to Jon's appointment of IAHC. ITAG is
a closed, top down, appointed group working to revamp the most
> > > critical aspects of the Internet. We have seen no sign that,
apart from getting initial clearance through Magaziner, the ITAG
> will
> > > do other than present its redesign to the world as a fait
accompli. IAHC was the previous such win/lose solution concocted by
> Jon as
> > > IANA."
> > > ==
> > > http://forum.icann.org/org-eval/final-report/pdf00000.pdf
> > > Afilias (Hal Lubsen - .INFO, IAHC, CORE and Pennsylvania) as
the "Registry"
> > > ...they of course out-source to UltraDNS (Rodney
Joffe)...equipment is being
> > > ordered and a January 1st cut-over is planned...VeriSign is of
course, part of Afilias.
> > > Dave Faber (Pennsylvania) was of course Jon Postel's thesis
advisor and helped to
> > > create ICANN as part of the ITAG, following the IAHC fiasco...
> > > http://www.ultradns.com/about/advisors.html
> > >
http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200209/msg00034.html

> > >
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/gore032199.htm

> > > ======
> > > http://forum.icann.org/org-eval/final-report/msg00009.html
> > > ICANN's conduct not only has been, and continues to be,
> > > inconsistent with the letter and spirit of its Memorandum of
Understanding
> > > with the U.S. Department of Commerce, but also amounts to a
breach of its
> > > obligations under its Registry Agreements with VeriSign, Inc.
> > > ...
> > > Roger Cochetti
> > > Senior Vice President and Chief Policy Officer
> > > ==========================
> > >
http://www.icann.org/tlds/org/final-evaluation-report-23sep02.htm
> > > "Demonstrated Ability: The ISOC partner, Afilias, has, as
indicated above, operated a TLD of significant scale for an extended
> > > period of time. There are now nearly one million registrations
in the .info database, a scale commensurate (as defined above)
> with
> > > the approximately three million .org registrations.
Furthermore, this experience is with the same operating environments
as is
> being
> > > proposed for .org. The fact that much of this operation is
outsourced (to IBM for computer and network operations, and to
> UltraDNS
> > > for nameserver services) should not be a reason to penalize the
ISOC proposal as some commentators have suggested, since Afilias
> has
> > > a proven track record operating .info in this manner. To the
contrary, credit could be given for careful selection of operating
> > > partners and for actual operating experience with those
partners."
> > > ========
> > >
> > > "credit could be given for careful selection of operating
partners"
> > >
> > > Hmmmm....
> > >
> > > http://www.ultradns.com/about/advisors.html
> > > Dr. Dave Farber
> > > Bill Manning
> > > http://www.arin.net/about_us/ab_org_bot.html
> > > Bill Manning
> > >
==========================================================================

> > >
> > > http://www.new.net
> > > http://www.new.net/about_us_partners.tp
> > >
> > > Dave Farber was Jon Postel's thesis advisor. Dave Farber was
also part of ITAG, which designed ICANN.
> > > UltraDNS is of course Rodney Joffe's company. Rodney Joffe
placed Jon Postel on the Board of Genuity
> > > prior to selling that company. Dave Manning is of course part
of ARIN and also USC/ISI IANA and was
> > > named in the .WEB lawsuit following the events where Chris
Ambler gave Jon Postel a $1,000 check via
> > > Dave Manning, who claimed he did not know there was a check,
despite supplying Chris Ambler (.WEB)
> > > with the envelope to put the check in. UltraDNS and New.Net are
also partners. Dave Farber was employed
> > > by the FCC during the Clinton administration, during the time
when William Daley was running the U.S.
> > > Department of Commerce creating ICANN, prior to Daley leaving
to run the Al Gore campaign which
> > > resulted in Daley attempting to get the votes counted in
Florida in Gore's favor. Dave Farber of course was
> > > one of the people, along with Vinton Cerf who helped claim that
Al Gore invented the Internet. Vinton Cerf
> > > was a DARPA funding manager and went to the same high-school as
Jon Postel. Vinton Cerf has most
> > > recently been an executive at Worldcom (MCI) and also runs
ICANN and founded the ISOC.
> > >
> > >
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/gore032199.htm

> > > David J. Farber, a professor of computer science at the
University of Pennsylvania and one of the early players in the
Internet,
> > > said that along with the importance of his legislative
initiatives, Gore popularized the emerging medium worldwide. Gore
aligned
> > > himself with high tech long before every lawmaker boasted of
his or her personal Web site. He helped popularize the term
> > > "information superhighway," drawing on the symbolism of his
father's hand in creating the interstate highway system.
> > >
> > > Vinton G. Cerf, a senior vice president at MCI Worldcom and the
person most often called "the father of the Internet" for his
> part
> > > in designing the network's common computer language, said in an
e-mail interview yesterday, "I think it is very fair to say that
> the
> > > Internet would not be where it is in the United States without
the strong support given to it and related research areas by the
> vice
> > > president in his current role and in his earlier role as
senator."
> > >
> > >
==========================================================================

> > >
> > >
http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200209/msg00034.html

> > >
> > > White House Town Hall Meeting
> > > Regarding the National Strategy to Secure Cyberspace
> > >
> > > To be held at the University of Pennsylvania
> > > October 3, 2002, 7:00 pm to 9:00 pm
> > >
> > > Annenberg Center
> > > Zellerbach Theatre
> > > 3680 Walnut Street
> > > Philadelphia, PA 19104
> > >
> > > Howard Schmidt, Vice Chairman, President's Critical
Infrastructure
> > > Protection Board
> > >
> > > Orson Swindle, Commissioner, Federal Trade Commission
> > >
> > > David J. Farber, Alfred Fitler Moore Professor of
Telecommunication Systems,
> > > University of Pennsylvania School of Engineering and Applied
Sciences
> > > ========================================================
> > > http://www.whitehouse.gov/pcipb
> > > http://www.ilpf.org
> > > http://www.ilpf.org/conference2002/new_index.html
> > > Among the globally recognized experts who will be speaking at
the conference are:
> > >
> > > Commissioner Orson Swindle of the US Federal Trade Commission;
> > >
> > > U.S. Strategy to Secure Cyberspace
> > > Howard Schmidt, Vice Chair, President's Critical Infrastructure
Protection Board
> > > The Vice Chair of the Board responsible for preparing the US
Strategy for Securing Cyberspace, which was made public on
> Wednesday,
> > > September 18, 2002
> > > http://www.ilpf.org/conference2002/schedule.html
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-9909/msg00035.html

> > >
> > > @05:19pm 07/06/99-0400, vinton g. cerf wrote:
> > > >folks,
> > > >
> > > >I have talked with John Sidgmore.  We will try to get $500K
> > > >at least "backup" in case nothing else in the way of
> > > >fundraising works.  Mike Nelson, I have copied John Patrick
and
> > > >Irving Wladawsky-Berger on this message, as well as John
Sidgmore.
> > > >If IBM and MCI Worldcom can come up with $1M in "bridge"
funding,
> > > >to be paid back at a later time under reasonable terms that
will
> > > >not harm ICANN, then perhaps we can begin a new fundraising
campaign
> > > >knowing that we have the ability to back up the campaign with
a
> > > >rescue effort in the short term.  It will be easier for John
Sidgmore
> > > >to make the case to the MCI Worldcom management if IBM is
willing to go
> > > >into this with us and split the $1M cost.  Is it possible?
> > > >
> > > >I would then launch a campaign with GIP, ITAA, Internet
Society,
> > > >and other interested groups on the basis that ICANN must
succeed
> > > >or Internet will be in jeopardy.  This ought to play well with
any
> > > >company whose stock price is dependent on a well-functioning
Internet.
> > > >
> > > >Thoughts?
> > > >
> > > >Vint
> > >
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> > >
> > > ???????????????????
> > >
> > > @05:19pm 07/06/99-0400, vinton g. cerf wrote:
> > >
> > > "This ought to play well with any company whose stock price is
dependent on a well-functioning Internet."
> > > ???????????????????
> >


Regretful regards,

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Again Regretful regards,

Regards,

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