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RE: [ga] WHOIS accuracy, and name deletions


At 05:28 p.m. 8/01/2003, Cade,Marilyn S - LGA wrote:
>Joop, you are responding in a way which indicates that you don't want to 
>have an interaction which can result in exchange between parties of good will.

Sorry, Marilyn. Good will shows in actions.  One of such actions would be 
to actually meaningfully discuss safeguards against WHOIS-accuracy 
heavyhandedness and abuse.
Not to demonize or write off a counterpart in the discussion as unwilling, 
based on the form of his writing.

The *substance* of my response to you was that the registrars TF comments 
or behaviour over such an   initial period can NOT be taken as a valid 
argument to allow them the power of summary (or 15 day) "takedowns".

It is like saying: we do not need safeguards against enforcement abuse; 
power does not corrupt.

The registrars protect themselves, not their registrants, with contracts 
that shield them as much as possible from any liability for their actions.
Some registrars may sound idealistic, but their contracts (actions) do not 
bear out the nice words that are aimed at getting more market share.

>That was what the smiley is about. I believe that the registrars who 
>commented in fact did so from the interest of protecting their 
>registrants. Your earlier comments seemed [apologize if I misunderstood 
>them] to say that commercial registrars didn't care. Point of my response 
>was: no, not borne out by their comments. :-)
>
>Not anything nefarious. Just a comment to convey information. Apologize if 
>not clear.

O.K., as information it is appreciated, as an argument it is recognized as 
vapor.
Isn't that "an interaction which can result in exchange between parties of 
good will"?


>As to the initial question: Who created the 15 day period.  That would 
>have been incorporated in the initial contracts. It probably seemed 
>reasonable at the time, and with email, should be ample.

As others have pointed out, due to massive spam deletion, email is not a 
reliable medium for life-or-death  Domain situations.

In the absence of the possibility of Postal communication,
1. email needs to be repeated over a much longer period than 15 days. (I 
think of at least 45 days)
2. judicial recourse must be left open in the registrar/registrant contracts.
3. Even when the zone file is changed, The Domain Name remains registered 
to the registrant until the registration expires.


-joop-

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