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Re: [ga] Verisign removing expiration dates from WHOIS Data?


i guess it is time for another official complaint then, though of curse
getting them in takes days :P

# whois auction-barn.com
[whois.crsnic.net]

Whois Server Version 1.3

Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

   Domain Name: AUCTION-BARN.COM
   Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC.
   Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
   Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
   Name Server: ONYX.NBNET.NB.CA
   Name Server: OPAL.NBNET.NB.CA
   Updated Date: 27-jan-2002


>>> Last update of whois database: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 17:04:58 EST <<<

The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU domains and
Registrars.


[whois.networksolutions.com]
The Data in the VeriSign Registrar WHOIS database is provided by
VeriSign for
information purposes only, and to assist persons in obtaining
information about
or related to a domain name registration record.  VeriSign does not
guarantee 
its accuracy.  Additionally, the data may not reflect updates to billing
contact
information.  By submitting a WHOIS query, you agree to use this Data
only 
for lawful purposes and that under no circumstances will you use this
Data to:
(1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass
unsolicited,
commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone, or
facsimile; or
(2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that apply to
VeriSign
(or its computer systems).  The compilation, repackaging, dissemination
or 
other use of this Data is expressly prohibited without the prior written
consent of VeriSign.  VeriSign reserves the right to terminate your
access to 
the VeriSign Registrar WHOIS database in its sole discretion, including 
without limitation, for excessive querying of the WHOIS database or for
failure
to otherwise abide by this policy.  VeriSign reserves the right to
modify these
terms at any time.  By submitting this query, you agree to abide by this
policy.


Registrant:
Donald Long (AUCTION-BARN2-DOM)
   222 Main St
   Doaktown, NB E9C 1B1
   CA

   Domain Name: AUCTION-BARN.COM

   Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
      Long, Don  (DL16451)  intertech@INTERTECHGLOBAL.COM
      Intertech Global Marketing Inc
      222 Main St.
      Doaktown
      NB
      E9C 1B1
      CA
      15063659000 (FAX) 15063658944

   Record last updated on 15-Mar-2002.
   Record created on 26-Jan-2000.
   Database last updated on 16-Mar-2002 04:35:00 EST.

   Domain servers in listed order:

   OPAL.NBNET.NB.CA		198.164.30.2
   ONYX.NBNET.NB.CA		198.164.4.2




On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 23:53, Rick Wesson wrote:
> 
> Registrars are required to include the expiration date in their whois.
> 
> -rick
> 
> from http://www.icann.org/registrars/ra-agreement-17may01.htm
> 
> 3.3 Public Access to Data on Registered Names. During the Term of this
> Agreement:
> 
> 3.3.1 At its expense, Registrar shall provide an interactive web page and
> a port 43 Whois service providing free public query-based access to
> up-to-date (i.e., updated at least daily) data concerning all active
> Registered Names sponsored by Registrar for each TLD in which it is
> accredited. The data accessible shall consist of elements that are
> designated from time to time according to an ICANN adopted specification
> or policy. Until ICANN otherwise specifies by means of an ICANN adopted
> specification or policy, this data shall consist of the following elements
> as contained in Registrar's database:
> 
> 3.3.1.1 The name of the Registered Name;
> 
> 3.3.1.2 The names of the primary nameserver and secondary nameserver(s)
> for the Registered Name;
> 
> 3.3.1.3 The identity of Registrar (which may be provided through
> Registrar's website);
> 
> 3.3.1.4 The original creation date of the registration;
> 
> 3.3.1.5 The expiration date of the registration;
> 
> 3.3.1.6 The name and postal address of the Registered Name Holder;
> 
> 3.3.1.7 The name, postal address, e-mail address, voice telephone number,
> and (where available) fax number of the technical contact for the
> Registered Name; and
> 
> 3.3.1.8 The name, postal address, e-mail address, voice telephone number,
> and (where available) fax number of the administrative contact for the
> Registered Name.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2002, George Kirikos wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Take a look at the WHOIS for the domain name "auction-barn.com"
> > 
> > http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois?STRING=auction-barn.com&SearchType=do
> > 
> > In particular:
> > 
> >    Record last updated on 15-Mar-2002.
> >    Record created on 26-Jan-2000.
> >    Database last updated on 16-Mar-2002 04:35:00 EST.
> > 
> > The "Record Expires" date is missing. 
> > 
> > If VGRS goes ahead with WLS, this is a potentially serious issue, as
> > consumers might be misled into purchasing WLS slots on names that
> > expire years in the future, as they'd have no way of knowing when the
> > name truly expires (let alone when it is released, even if it should be
> > past expiry). Existing customers and domain owners would also not be
> > able to check for sure when a name is due to expire, if they can't
> > check the WHOIS on their own names.
> > 
> > Furthermore, aren't registrars required to show certain data elements
> > in their WHOIS, as part of their accreditation contracts??
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > 
> > George Kirikos
> > http://www.kirikos.com/
> > 
> > 
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