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Re: [ga] DNSO GA RESTRUCTURING
Eric and all assembly members,
Layering is ok for cakes and other baked goods. It is not in line with a
KISS method or approach. However, as I said below, layers of
nonsense is what bureaucrats crave as it justifies their existence, but
does more harm than good otherwise... However I can appreciate
you historic humor here Eric.... >;)
Eric Dierker wrote:
> Let us not be to hasty here, (if bureaucracy is the most misspelled).
> this layering
> may be just what the surgeon ordered. Alas;
>
> Etymology: French bureaucratie, from bureau + -cratie
> -cracy
> Date: 1818
> 1 a : a body of nonelective government officials b
> : an
> administrative policy-making group
> 2 : government characterized by specialization of
> functions,
> adherence fixed rules, and a hierarchy of authority
> 3 : a system of administration marked by
> officialism, red
> tape, and proliferation
>
> But I do not see anything good about this term so lets not get bogged
> down therein.
>
> If we build of several layers of insulation from the top and simulation
> from the
> bottom is that so bad? Conant put this out to be discussed and it
> barrows some
> merit. It almost would work if each representative also represented one
> of these
> lists we seem to have grown accustomed to, the rep is the chair but
> elected by the
> general, and I don't like chair I like leader. We keep the number at
> nine and make
> the ones that don't represent a list at large. (I tell you what; you
> give me no
> budget and the leadership of a list entitled dotcommoners I will come
> back with
> really good results, no suspensions and the like but plenty of work and
> disgusting
> political and intellectual debauchery to keep it fun, people on my list
> won't have
> time for no stinking "Survivor". We will be filled with hackers and
> slackers and
> housewives and college kids. The only problem will be that by taking
> our advice
> ICANN could extract itself from their mess. - even financially. People
> will not be
> driven to the list they will be glued to it)
>
> All the best friends! I am on cloud nine our dotVN launching has full
> governmental
> authority and our engine is complete, the newest and fastest ever. 77
> million
> people wait for us to market themselves, our dotcommoners will soon
> include
> thousand of merchants on the streets of SouthEast Asia. These guys love
> participation and to practice their english, I am making hundreds of
> invitations to
> join our list - watchout!!!
>
> Eric the Sincere
>
> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Leah and all assembly members,
> >
> > Beaurocrats love more layers of beaurocracy, it justifies their existence,
> > and also can feather their caps! I am sure we don't need that.
> >
> > L Gallegos wrote:
> >
> > > Derek, you have just described the equivalent to the names council, but
> > > within the GA. Another layer of beaurocracy.
> > >
> > > On 12 Jun 2001, at 20:20, Derek Conant wrote:
> > >
> > > > The DNSO needs to move forward, whereas, it does not appear to be making
> > > > progress. There may be indeed hundreds of posts within this forum,
> > > > however, that does not show that the organization is anything more than a
> > > > general chat channel.
> > > >
> > > > The DNSO needs to move forward and to do this I propose the following
> > > > DNSO GA restructuring suggestions:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > DNSO GA RESTRUCTURING
> > > > ======================
> > > >
> > > > 1. Forget counting everyone's votes. GA representatives should take
> > > > control over the non-active participants in this forum and move this
> > > > process forward.
> > > >
> > > > 2. The DNSO GA should rely on the votes of 9 qualified GA
> > > > representatives that continually demonstrate their constructive
> > > > participation. It should be easy for the active participants here to
> > > > decide who the 9 GA representatives should be, as based upon their
> > > > demonstrated, verifiable and constructive participation.
> > > >
> > > > I could begin to qualify the following individuals as GA
> > > > representatives:
> > > > 1. Sotiris Souteropolis
> > > > 2. William Walsh
> > > > 3. Jefsey Morphin
> > > > 4. Marilyn Cade
> > > > 5. Eric Dierker
> > > > 6. Leah Gallegos
> > > > 7. Joop Teenstra
> > > > 8. Bret Fausett
> > > > 9. Joanna Lane
> > > > 10. Roeland Meyer
> > > > 11. David Farrar
> > > > 12. Kent Crispin
> > > > 13. Derek Conant
> > > > 14. Patrick Corliss
> > > > 15. Patrick Greenwell
> > > > 16. Jim Fleming
> > > > 17. Sandy Harris
> > > > 18. Darryl (Dassa) Lynch
> > > > 19. Jeffrey Williams
> > > > 20. Danny Younger
> > > > 21. Vint Cerf, Michael Froomkin and others.
> > > >
> > > > 3. The 9 qualified representatives will hold their posts for only 2
> > > > months. 1 Week before the expiration of the representative's 2 month
> > > > term, the GA active participants again vote for 9 qualified
> > > > representatives.
> > > >
> > > > 4. The 9 GA representatives request input from GA members for GA
> > > > agenda. The 9 GA representatives give the GA members several days to
> > > > respond, then the 9 GA representatives weigh the information contributed to
> > > > the forum and vote on the GA's position.
> > > >
> > > > 5. GA members may suggest new material and subject matter that is
> > > > considered off topic. However, the GA's current position and schedule must
> > > > be clearly posted and informative and the GA will schedule such new
> > > > material for consideration for the following weeks agenda.
> > > >
> > > > 6. Regardless of the GAs current position, it must be open to new
> > > > perspectives and be flexible enough to change its position upon
> > > > constructive information.
> > > >
> > > > 7. It should take only 1 week or less for the GA to develop or change it
> > > > position from information received within its scheduled agenda from GA
> > > > members. It should not take several months to produce GA agenda or
> > > > positions.
> > > >
> > > > 9. The process is open and transparent and GA members will see how the 9
> > > > GA representatives reached their conclusions.
> > > >
> > > > 8. Only 9 people vote on GA subject matter. I believe that the 9 GA
> > > > representatives will want the GA process to be successful and therefore
> > > > will use their best judgment in representing GA positions.
> > > >
> > > > This is the beginning of what I was trying to describe through the
> > > > DNSGA's APO concept or model at
> > > > http://dnsga.org/announcements/atlarge_5june01.html.
> > > >
> > > > I have submitted this for development, constructive input and criticism.
> > > >
> > > > Derek Conant
> > > > DNSGA President and Chairman
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > Regards,
> >
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