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RE: [ga] Registration process suggestion
At 10:09 AM 2/14/2000 -0800, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
> > I did not say that no mechanisms or services existed. I said there was no
> > large-scale USE.
>Without marketing/demographics data, which neither of us are either privy to
>(or are free to publish) your statement is unsupported. I still maintain
>that it is false (understood - such statement is equally unsupported).
>However, you might try Forrester's.
The nice things about using the term "large-scale" in the context of the
Internet is that measuring achieving it is usually obvious to most any
observer. Simple questions like "is there any indication that average,
non-technical users employ it regularly or easily -- and particularly
between people in different organizations?" permit gauging the scale of use.
In the case of Internet authentication obviously has not achieved truly
wide-scale deployment and is, most certainly, not easy to use, except with
quite a bit of administrative hand-holding for non-technical users.
>I agree with the non-email requirement (email vs persona). It is also a
>problem with PGP. PGP only secures the individual message. With a PKI,
>it -might- also provide verification of the end-points of a communique.
The trust models, security boundaries, etc. are pretty much the same for
PGP and S/MIME. Suggesting that PGP does not have a "public-key
infrastructure" is a bit strange, and even stranger to suggest that adding
one somehow expands the scope of the objects being protected.
To the extent you mean that employing a third-party key certification
structure is significant, yes. It permits making stronger statements about
the protection of the data, relative to the third-party authority. But it
does not change the scope of what is being protected.
> > > > For that matter, there is no large scale use of open, encrypton-based
> > > > authentication services.
> > >This is true, iff you emphasize the term "open".
> > That is exactly the point. ICANN participation is open.
>... apples and oranges, Dave. ICANN is not a technology and authentication
>services are not a would-be governance organization.
The reference to ICANN being open means that the security technology must
interwork among a very diverse and independent set of people.
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