RE: [ga] Final draft of proposed mailing list rules

["Andrew McLaughlin" <mclaughlin@pobox.com>]

Michael:

The DNSO GA is specific to the DNSO, just as the ASO GA is specific to the
ASO and the PSO GA is specific to the PSO.  [Unlike the DNSO, the ASO and
PSO have defined their "General Assemblies" as annual open meetings, not as
standing entities.]  Conceptually, the DNSO GA is the aggregate of all
individuals involved in the DNSO.  None of the three Supporting Organization
GAs has any role in choosing the 9 At Large Directors on the ICANN Board,
just as none of the three SO Councils has any role in choosing the 9 At
Large Directors.  That's because the three SOs otherwise choose the other 9
ICANN Directors.

The 9 At Large Directors are to be chosen by an At Large Membership.  The
ICANN Board has defined the At Large Membership in Article II of the Bylaws
<http://www.icann.org/general/bylaws.htm#II>;  and adopted resolutions at
each of its last three meetings -- in Los Angeles
<http://www.icann.org/minutes/prelim-report-4nov99.htm#membership>, in
Santiago
<http://www.icann.org/santiago/santiago-resolutions.htm#anchor21816>, and in
Berlin <http://www.icann.org/berlin/berlin-resolutions.html#3>.  ICANN
sought funding from various sources to finance the launch of the At Large
Membership structure;  in November, the Markle Foundation announced that it
would contribute $200,000 to finance it
<http://www.icann.org/at-large/markle-proposal-21oct99.htm>.  Since then,
ICANN has hired a project manager and technical consultants to build the
back-end for membership registration and voting;  we're preparing to launch
the Membership Implementation Task Force to assist with recruitment and
outreach;  and the Board is preparing to resolve remaining membership &
election policy issues at its next meeting, in Cairo in March.  See
<http://www.icann.org/cairo2000/cairo-details.htm#agenda>.

Nothing squirmy here.  It's all there in black-and-white, as it has been for
months, collected on the ICANN page for At Large Membership
<http://www.icann.org/at-large/at-large.htm>.

--Andrew



[ -----Original Message-----
[ From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org]On Behalf Of Michael
[ Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law
[ Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 9:24 PM
[ To: Kent Crispin
[ Cc: ga@dnso.org
[ Subject: Re: [ga] Final draft of proposed mailing list rules
[ 
[ 
[ This is contrary to my understanding of the facts.  I may be wrong, but
[ I understood that membership in the GA was the primary means of
[ establishing membership in the voting pool for at-large Board members.
[ 
[ If this is not correct, could someone please point me to the relevant
[ document(s)?  I would be the first to admit that it is no longer possible
[ to keep up with the ways in which ICANN continually squirms on the subject
[ of what constitutes the general membership, so I am prepared to be
[ corrected on this.
[ 
[ On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Kent Crispin wrote:
[ [...]
[ 
[ > It is you who has the apples and pianos.  There are *no* significant
[ > rights inherent in GA "membership", just as there are *no* significant
[ > rights inherent in IETF "membership".  In fact, "membership" is not well
[ > defined for either organization.  This is an important and fundamental
[ > concept, and until you understand it you will be shadow boxing with
[ > ghosts.
[ > 
[ 
[ Incidentally, this is also, as I understand it, not a true statement about
[ the IETF, since "membership" (established by attending 2 meetings in the
[ right time frame) entitles one to be be eligible to volunteer for a
[ nominating committee, selected at random from among the volunteers, which
[ will choose six IAB members. RFC 1601. The IETF thus has very important
[ input into the membership of the IAB, making the IAB responsible to the
[ IETF membership.  This is an important and fundamental concept, and until
[ you understand it....
[  
[ 
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