RE: [ga-roots] Jon Postel

["Josh Elliott" <josh@basicfusion.com>]

Simon,

It depends at what point in time you are referring to.  In 1996, I became
the first full-time employee dedicated to the project, although Jon and
Joyce Reynolds spent much of their time doing the more important IANA
functions.  Before that, Jon and Joyce did everything, with Joyce handling
the majority of the load since she was hired in 1984-ish.  Others were
involved, primarily research assistants that floated in and out of the
Networking Division at ISI.  Zita Wenzel was also involved and mainly
responsible for transitioning IANA to ICANN in late 1998.

After Jon passed away, Joyce and I did it ourselves.  When ICANN began to
manage it in early 1999, other various folks dipped thier hand in it:  Mike
Roberts, Louis Touton, Andrew McLaughlin and some others.

The current IANA Administrator, Michelle Schipper was hired in Jan 2000, as
a replacement for me prior to my departure in that same month.

I hope that clears things up a bit.

Josh

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ga-roots@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga-roots@dnso.org]On Behalf
Of Simon Higgs
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 2:51 AM
To: [ga-roots]
Subject: RE: [ga-roots] Jon Postel


At 08:09 AM 5/25/01 -0700, Josh Elliott wrote:

Who all worked for the IANA with Jon? As I understand it, it was a four
person task with 0.25 person budget.

Also, how did it change after Jon died?

>Patrick,
>
>There are a few details I would dispute, but the only real important one is
>that IANA only existed until late 1998, which is entirely incorrect.  The
>IANA still exists today under ICANN management, and before ICANN took
>control contractually for IANA, it still operated without the direction of
>Jon Postel in late 1998.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Josh (former IANA Administrator)
>
>Josh Elliott, President & CEO
>Basic Fusion, Inc.
>
>josh@basicfusion.com
>+1 661 254 8701 (Work)
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-ga-roots@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga-roots@dnso.org]On Behalf
>Of Patrick Corliss
>Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 7:50 AM
>To: NameCritic
>Cc: [ga-roots]
>Subject: [ga-roots] Jon Postel
>
>
>On Fri, 25 May 2001 04:10:16 -0700, William X. Walsh wrote:
>Subject: Re[4]: (Fwd) Re: [ga-roots] alternate roots considered harmful
>
> > Hello NameCritic,
> >
> > Friday, May 25, 2001, 3:41:28 AM, NameCritic wrote:
> >
> > >> You obviously do not know your domain history very well.
> >
> > > Or you do not William. Are you saying there was never a time when all
> > > you had to do was ask Jon Postel for a domain name to get one?
> >
> > A top level domain?  Yes, I am.
>
>http://www.cctec.com/maillists/nanog/historical/9603/msg00108.html
>Just a small quibble David:  when you say "the IANA" decided, it gives
>the impression that an august group of people like the IESG took action.
>In reality "the IANA" is but a SINGLE person - John Postel.  If some
>people are upset I suspect it might be because the power to make such a
>decision is vested in the hands of ONE person rather than in a group.
>
>http://www.tftb.com/ICANN.html
>That the system has worked as well as it has is largely a tribute to the
>work of one man, Dr. John Postel, the recently deceased director of the
>Internet Assigned Numbers Authority.
>
>http://www.u.arizona.edu/~wfoster/whogoverns.html
>InterNIC gets its authority to delegate both IP address and domain names
>from the Internet Assigned Number Authority (IANA). IANA, which is run by
>John Postel, has historically been responsible for unique parameters that
>are required by IETF protocols. Though IANA had given most countries the
>right to operate their own TLD and assign secondary domain names within it,
>the .com TLD has developed a cachet not only for United States businesses
>but for businesses all over the world.
>
>http://www.murdoch.edu.au/elaw/issues/v6n1/blakeney61_text.html
>The IANA also allocated the right to administer country code TLDs to local
>Network Information Centres (NICs) or to local corporations. For example
the
><.co.uk>, <.ltd.uk>, <.plc.uk>, <.net.uk> and <.org.uk> domain names are
>administered by Nominet UK Limited (Nominet).
>
>http://www.isocnz.org.nz/international/cctld000728report-best-practice.html
>CENTR's view is that complete authority was transferred by John Postel to
>the local manager, and all issues, including re-delegation, are a matter
for
>the local courts in the country associated with the ccTLDs.
>
>http://www.isocnz.org.nz/international/cctld000728report-best-practice.html
>Nominet (the manager of .uk) has taken US legal advice, which is to the
>effect that the UK registry has a contract with either the estate of John
>Postel, or his employer (effectively the University of Southern
California).
>Nominet has not consented to any transfer of the benefits or obligations
>under that contract to ICANN, and does not recognise any ICANN authority
>over the UK registry.
>
>http://www.zakon.org/robert/internet/timeline/
>1988.  Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) established in December
>with Jon Postel as its Director. Postel was also the RFC Editor and US
>Domain registrar for many years.
>
>http://www.zakon.org/robert/internet/timeline/
>1989.  Countries connecting to NSFNET: Australia (AU), Germany (DE), Israel
>(IL), Italy (IT), Japan (JP), Mexico (MX), Netherlands (NL), New Zealand
>(NZ), Puerto Rico (PR), United Kingdom (UK)
>
>http://www.iiia.org/lists/newdom/1995q3/0239.html
>Actually, while the InterNIC processes the requests for the two-letter
>country code TLDs and does the interactions with the applicants, the
>IANA is in the loop on approving each one. So the ultimate approval of
>each (ISO-3166) two-letter country code TLD has always and continues to
>involve an approval step by the IANA.
>
>http://www.itu.int/newsarchive/press/releases/1998/PostelLegacy.html
>Few organizations have played as critical a role as the IANA. Unique
numbers
>and unique names must be assigned and managed. The IANA has allocated
>Internet protocol addresses and maintained a registry of the unique values
>required for the Internet to work. This has been IANA's task from the very
>beginning.
>
>http://www.net99.org/presentations/Bernard_Turcotte/tsld002.htm
>The top level DNS system was under the administration of the Internet
>Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) and its director John Postel until late
>1998.  IANA administered the TLD system and the IP address system
>internationally without any formal authority.
>
>See http://www.auda.org.au/docs/letter-com.au.html
>com.au Letter of Authority
>15 November 1999
>
>.au Domain Administration
>255 Elizabeth Street
>Sydney NSW 2000
>
>Dear Sirs
>
>The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority ("IANA") has delegated to
>me the authority to manage the .au namespace.
>
>I hereby now delegate to you full authority to manage the .com.au
>namespace, which is a subset of the .au namespace (the "Domain").
>
><snip>
>
>In the event that I am succeeded as the delegated authority for
>the .au namespace, my successor shall assume all the rights and
>obligations accruing to me under my arrangement with IANA and
>this arrangement with you.
>
>I trust that you will administer the Domain in a fair and
>responsible manner.
>
>Yours sincerely
>Robert Elz
>
>
>Regards
>Patrick Corliss
>
>
>
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Best Regards,

Simon Higgs

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