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Re: [ga] Grace and Redemption
The solution is to change the type of verification, or if that is not
possible, to transfer to another registrar. OpenSRS/Tucows, Enom (and
others, I am sure) let one change details over a webinterface. One must
not forget the password then, of course...
On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, at 06:06 [=GMT-0400], Ken Stubbs wrote:
> maybe instead of just talking about the issues , someone should suggest a practical solution to the potential propblem being discussed here..
>
> ken stubbs
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: L. Gallegos
> To: ga@dnso.org
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 4:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [ga] Grace and Redemption
>
>
> My point is that the registrant has to use the email address to contact
> the system in order to verify the transaction (email verification). Many
> registrants use their domain for email and some even just for email, so
> that they do not have to continually change email addresses if they
> change ISPs, etc. So, going to a neighbor to use his email addy is not
> going to do anything. It won't compute. That has been one of the
> bugaboos when people do change email addresses due to ISP
> changes, especially when it is due to an ISP failure or other emergency
> change. Suddenly one can't do anything about modifying domain
> information and it all has to be done by phone. With Verisign it is
> extremely painful to do anything via phone or fax. Other registrars do
> not even make their phone numbers public - or at least easy to find.
>
> It is an issue whether some feel otherwise or not.
>
> The telephone or electric bill analogy is not a good one, IMO, since
> most people would be able to deal with that simply - by using another
> phone. Verification of an email address is not necessary, nor is
> verification of the number from which you are calling.
>
> Leah
>
>
> On 28 Jun 2002, at 13:54, Dan Steinberg wrote:
>
> > I have to agree. If your phone gets disconnected, it doesnt matter if
> > its because you 'thought you had paid' but hadnt or if its turly telco
> > error or lost cheque. You still have to go visit a neighbour, or use a
> > cell phone or trundle down to find a pay phone just to establish what
> > the problem is and see if you have to do something (like pay). It's your
> > repsonisibility to find a way to do this.
> >
> > William X Walsh wrote:
> > >
> > > Friday, June 28, 2002, 1:31:08 AM, L. Gallegos wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, the board approved it, but I still have a question that no one
> > > > seems to have addressed.
> > >
> > > > If an expired domain is placed on registry hold and no longer resolves,
> > > > and the contact email is based on that domain, how will the registrant
> > > > be able to "undelete" it or move it to another registrar to redeem it if
> > > > there can be no contact?
> > >
> > > > It seems to me that there should be some resolution to this question or
> > > > what good is the Grace and Redemption perioid? The only other means
> > > > to communicate in this scenario, would be by telephone. Some of the
> > > > registrars do not even list their phone numbers on their websites and
> > > > there would be little time to handle it via snail mail.
> > >
> > > > Anyone have any comments?
> > >
> > > Personal Responsibility.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > > William X Walsh <william@wxsoft.info>
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