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Re[2]: [ga] Uniform Domain Deletion Policy needed - at the REGISTRAR level.


Friday, Friday, February 22, 2002, 3:03:07 AM, Harold Whiting wrote:

> At 02:29 AM 2/22/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>>Friday, Friday, February 22, 2002, 2:17:18 AM, Harold Whiting wrote:
>>
>>> 2. Domains that remain unpaid 40 days post expiry date shall be returned to
>>> the registry to be made available for re-registration.  Registry shall
>>> queue all names marked for deletion using the standard "5 day hold" process
>>> used now.  No unpaid names shall remain in the registrar's control after 45
>>> days, unpaid names must be deleted. Period. Registry fees charged to
>>> Registrar's account will be refunded on all names returned to registry by
>>> day 45 (just like now, except the registrar will now HAVE to hold the name
>>> at least 40 days).
>>
>>This is a problem, Harold.
>>
>>In effect you are mandating that a registrar tie up potentially
>>hundreds of thousands of dollars of its capital in past due domain
>>registration fees.  While this is not an issue for larger registrars,
>>or registrars owned by the Registry, or Registrars owned by larger
>>corporations, the smaller registries are the ones most likely to be
>>hurt by this, and potentially forced out of the business, or prevented
>>from getting into the business in the first place.
>>
>>The ICANN recommendation eliminates that problem, and for that reason,
>>I think a strong argument can be made that it is the more fair option.

> William,

>   This is the way the "grace period" works already.  The Registrar does not
> actually "pay" the fee, it is added as a debit to that registrar's account.
>  Some simple accounting adjustments could possibly be included to ensure
> that this is not a hardship, in any case.

Right, but the grace period is optional.  Your proposal would REQUIRE
the registrar to utilize it, and force them to float a larger amount
of their capital in their registry account.

> The ICANN recommendation only shifts the issue to the registry, at an
> unspecified cost I might add.

Well, the cost at the Registry is negligible at best.  $1 for the
recovery would probably add a nice profit into it as well  :)

>  Recovering the name from the registry would
> require much more in resourses/time/money than recovering that same name
> directly from the registrar.  Now with the added talk of somehow being able
> to "recover it through any registrar, not just the original registrar"  I
> see far more potential problems and potential for fraud than in the plan I
> sketched out.

Depends on how it is implemented.  If the registry is required to
grace period the domain, the registrar should be required to maintain
the whois data for the same period.


-- 
Best regards,
William X Walsh <william@wxsoft.info>
--

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the law. No artist ever interpreted nature as freely as a lawyer
interprets the truth."
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