Re: [ga] Austerity measures

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jefsey and all assembly members,

  SELECTIVE CENSORSHIP has been practiced on this Forum sense
July of last year.  It still continues.  See archives under Censorship
as
subject.

Jefsey Morfin wrote:

> Dear Philip,
> I am sorry but you are right on target:
>
> - I will not accept Roealnd's evaluation for now and will address
>    this seriously.
>
> - the whole list is censored from the day you followed my
>    suggestion to have Mr. Young as a Chair. I apologized for that
>    mistake.
>
> I am against any form of censorhip so I am on the ga-full. I
> however fully accept the filtered ga as an help to keep the
> ga-full intersting. But I want the most interesting information
> (why people are extfiltered: they often represent market
> or innovative trends not yet accepted or still ill worded).
> Since this is a part of my financial reason to participate,
> should the ga-full be removed I would make everything to
> obtain that information through the "censored" list to the
> detriment of its peace. We are here to work, to get feeds
> back, to achieve personnal agenda... not to drink Vint's
> cup of tea.
>
> On 09:22 15/05/01, Philip Sheppard said:
> >Can anyway provide an example of censorship exercised on
> >the ga moderated list in the last 12 months?
> >Philip.
>
> You are true. There never have been censorship on the ga
> moderated list as long as Mr. Roberto Gaetano was the Chair.
> Except may be - but it was a mutually accepted act - against
> Dr. Baptista.
>
> You may now want to consider that since Mr. Danny Young
> has been approved as a Chair by the NC, upon GA vote:
>
> - not a single motion has even been acknowledged while
>    many have been presented
>
> - not a single vote has been taken or is under preparation
>
> - all the important subjects have been definitely censored in
>    being exfiltered to artificial MLs under tight control (list
>    monitoring, common regulation, etc..) without ANY
>    approbation nor even consultation of the GA
>
> - that the Chair has issued several letters - as put by
>    Roberto - "in emergency" on behalf of the whole GA
>    but has not - as commented by Roberto - yet polled the
>    approbation of he GA
>
> - Mr. Jeff Williams and Mr. Eric Dierker have been
>    excluded on disputable grounds and the GA has been
>    denied the possibility of an appeal IRT Mr. Dierker
>    explicitly filtered out because of his positions against
>    the Chair as a "dotcommer".
>
> - Some Chair positions have been published as based
>    upon personal censoring and appreciations of external
>    MLs (WG-R, IDNO, icann-europe).
>
> I am really embarrassed to acknowledge this. It means
> that the GA was not mature enough to carry this election
> after the departure of the consensual candidate.
>
> But this is also a positive thing.
>
> - we gained experience and may find a solution
>    (should the subject not censored by Chairs)
>
> - I used to campaigned against constituencies and the
>    existing NC.  I am still opposed to the current
>    constituency system (even more if we consider the
>    ga-full handling) but I learned the priority of the
>    required "wise  people" council. The NC could be
>    it, should the Individual Users, the SMEs, the
>    individual domain name holders, the RSCs and non
>    legacy TLDs be represented.
>
> I thank you for your concern and your time. Your
> response will show who was right, Roeland or me.
> I do hope I am. Otherwise I will agree 100% with
> Roeland.
>
> Jefsey
>
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