Re: [ga] Re: [PRIVATE] List Rules and Protocols

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Roeland and all remaining assembly members,

Roeland Meyer wrote:

> I am very much saddened to see this. I have seen it before, different list,
> different personality, same antagonist. We don't need the GA list to devolve
> into war. Neither, do we need the elected leadership being second-guessed at
> every turn (they won't be able to do their jobs). We also don't need to be
> running continuous elections, which is what will happen if this gets as
> out-of-hand as it has on other lists.

  Respectfully I disagree with you here Roeland.

  The problem with all this mess started some time ago when the current
list rules were imposed.  They were not voted upon legitimately as you well
know.  I am sorry that I must again bring this up but it is important in order
to solve this sort of problem.  M. Foomkin and Joanna, today as well as few
others last week also made not of this in various posts.  As such, this problem
must be solved before individual incidences can be properly addressed.

  Although the tenor of WXW's posting of a private E-Mail was border line
inappropriate, it was none the less essentially accurate.  Which is more
important, is what each of us should be asking ourselves.  Patrick
posted a nicely worded threat to WXW, to which WXW took exception
with, although possibly in too strong of a manner and in in very threatening
way.  However Patrick goaded him and as the Co-Chair he should not
have don that in that manner in a private or public post.  As you know
very well Roeland, Patrick Corliss has a history of doing this sort of
thing.  You have said that to me yourself on the phone on more than
one occasion.  This is one of several reasons why I opposed him for
Chair or Co-Chair for the DNSO GA.

>
>
> I suggest that all sides take a time-out (24-hours).

  ALthough I appreciate this suggestion, it is too little and really too late...

>
>
> IMHO, we were finally begining to make headway into substantive discussions.
> Let's not take the 12-steps backwards that this is threateniing to do.

  Some progress is being made yes, but possibly in directions that the Co-Chair
is having problems with given the total context of his recent posts.  Possibly
this lead to this altercation?   I think so...

>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patrick Corliss [mailto:patrick@quad.net.au]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 1:39 AM
> > To: William X. Walsh
> > Cc: [ga-abuse]; Harald Tveit Alvestrand; [GA]
> > Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [PRIVATE] List Rules and Protocols
> >
> >
> > Dear Mr Walsh
> >
> > You have reposted my private mail onlist.
> > This was clearly marked [PRIVATE].
> >
> > Not only that you did it deliberately.
> >
> > I have now returned the favour, as I suspect you knew I
> > would.  You have then
> > criticised me for posting your private email which clearly
> > relates as much to GA
> > business as mine does.
> >
> > As you have challenged and threatened me on the very first
> > occasion I tried to
> > bring some moderation to the list, I would ask you to propose
> > a motion of
> > no-confidence in the Co-Chair.
> >
> > I also lodge a formal complaint to [ga-abuse] and ask that it
> > be condidered by
> > the current List Monitor, Mr Harald Tveit Alvestrand, as a
> > matter or urgency.
> >
> > I'm sorry to impose of list members, but it's clear that I
> > cannot perform my
> > role when subject to this sort of unwarranted abuse.
> >
> > So let's put it to a vote.  Perhaps you might like the position?
>
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