[ga-full] Re: [ga] Matters to discuss ... Am I a member?

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Harald and all,

Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:

> At 23:57 21.02.00 -0400, Peter de Blanc wrote:
> ......
>
> >Do i need a digital ID?
> >
> >NO. I know who i am, thank you, and I AM a member of the GA, as much as
> >anyone can be.
> >
> >Let's not get so technoid that  we  dis-enfranchise those who don't know the
> >techno-lingo.
> >
> >It's difficult enough to even find, or think of finding 5000 people without
> >all these barriers to entry. Please keep it simple.
>
> My wish too. As simple as possible - but no simpler.

  Exactly right, I agree.  I think this is what Peter meant as well...
Peter, am I right in saying this?

>
>
> On the other hand - if I were to register the nonexistent persons hta1,
> hta2 and hta3@alvestrand.no as GA members, and claim voting rights for them
> - what would be the mechanism we could use to grant you voting rights, and
> deny it to the nonexistent persons?

  You can only use one E-Mail address with unique "Message ID" would
determine this.  The software used as a voting mechanism can easily check this.
That is at least one way to eliminate this particular problem, Harald.
There are others though.  Hence the suggestion that I an David Jenson
made in that the DNSO must assign a E-Mail address for each participant
when subscribing to the list, making sure to check "Message ID" when they
do subscribe.  That should address your and others concern here as well
adequately enough, and not have a need for PKI necessarily.

>
>
> Some people argue strongly against "challenge when suspected", because it's
> inherently unfair (loud cheaters get caught, quiet cheaters don't). Others
> bemoan the cost and privacy invasions of any across-the-board ID validation
> scheme.

  Challenge is fine, but is not legal in the US and other countries.  Hence
making it
a non-workable and non-exceptable method unless you can guarantee privacy
of those challenged and the challenge also applies to everyone.  This has not
been
done as you well know.  Hence making this method problematic at best.
Therefore an uninterested third party should be involved here in order for this
method to be creditable.  That, as far as I am aware, is not in place presently.

>
>
> It's a tough question, IMHO.
>
>                          Harald
>
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> Harald Tveit Alvestrand, EDB Maxware, Norway
> Harald.Alvestrand@edb.maxware.no
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