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RE: [council] Status report on implementation of evolution and reform


I am still not convinced this is a real issue.  There are many ways that this issue can be dealt with, assuming it is really a problem.  For example, if a constituency feels a need to have points of contact around the globe for logistical purposes, it can appoint such; there is no need for those people to be NC members.  Any concerns about one region dominance could be avoided by a strict system of rotation; it is not intuitively obvious why NA, for example, must always be the source of a constituency NC member.   There will never be a case when all regions (5 now, and perhaps 6 in the future) will be represented simultaneously, so whether there are two or three represented at any one time seems a small difference.  The tradeoff, of course, is the desire to have a small enough body to be workable, and to have proper balance; if the current balance were kept, and the constituency reps went to 3 each, the size of the NC would move from 15 (probably already bigger than optimal) to 24, surely larger than optimal.  So this would not be a change without cost.  Reasonable people may differ on the net effect of this tradeoff, but I would opt for the smallest body possible consistent with other values.



Joe Sims
Jones Day Reavis & Pogue
51 Louisiana Avenue NW
Washington, D.C. 20001
Direct Phone:  1.202.879.3863
Direct Fax:  1.202.626.1747
Mobile Phone:  1.703.629.3963

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-----"Jonathan Cohen" <jcohen@shapirocohen.com> wrote: -----

To: "Joe Sims" <jsims@jonesday.com>, "Philip Sheppard" <philip.sheppard@aim.be>
From: "Jonathan Cohen" <jcohen@shapirocohen.com>
Date: 07/17/2002 10:12AM
cc: <council@dnso.org>
Subject: RE: [council] Status report on implementation of evolution and reform


I must say I had not thought of this 'problem' when suggesting a reduction
in the number of seats on the Names Council per constituency.Perhaps there
should be 3 or even 4 members elected/appointed as Names Council reps but
only 2 at any one time could attend or vote..This needs some thought but
might answer both problems??
Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-council@dnso.org [mailto:owner-council@dnso.org]On Behalf Of
Joe Sims
Sent: 16 July 2002 11:13
To: Philip Sheppard
Cc: council@dnso.org
Subject: Re: [council] Status report on implementation of evolution and
reform
Thanks for the clarification. I was confused. We can discuss at some
other time the points you raise, which I agree have merit, and how they
balance against the benefits of a smaller council.


Joe Sims
Jones Day Reavis & Pogue
51 Louisiana Avenue NW
Washington, D.C. 20001
Direct Phone: 1.202.879.3863
Direct Fax: 1.202.626.1747
Mobile Phone: 1.703.629.3963



"Philip
Sheppard" To: "Joe Sims"
<jsims@jonesday.com>
<philip.sheppard cc: <council@dnso.org>
@aim.be> Subject: [council] Status
report on implementation of evolution and
reform
Sent by:
owner-council@dn
so.org


07/16/02 10:59
AM






Joe, thank you for your intervention but you have confused two issues. (Or
in my usual short-hand I failed to explain them, most probably.)
My key concern is not the number of Board members voted by the new SO (2
now not 3) . This is a concern but as you say can be more easily balanced
in aggregate by a nom com.

The concern is the reduction in constituency reps(council members) on the
new GNSO council from 2 to 3. The membership of many constituencies has a
typical profile in order of magnitude:
US
European
Asia Pacific
ROW

So in an election for reps there is likely to be a first preference going
to a US candidate and the rest of the world must fight over the other
place.

Take the BC as an example. Today we have three reps in three broad time
zones. Marilyn in the US, me in Europe and Grant in Asia Pacific. This
means we are in touch with the culture of these three significant economic
blocks. Our reps are in contact with the governments in their regions. It
means that when we need to contact our members by telephone, we have a
member in the right time zone. When we have a chance to go to regional
meetings (as I did last week in Paris) a BC rep can attend and discuss
issues face to face with members from the region. All this is diluted with
2 reps per constituency on the Council. Diluting the ability of Council to
represent the Constituency is bad for Constituency outreach and
representation. This is bad for the Council and bad for ICANN.

Maintaining 3 reps per constituency as Council members is the
implementation we seek from the ERC.


Philip





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